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alliamc
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Finally Getting Back to Biking... Reply with quote

Well it's finally happened, I've snapped and got fed up with my car, so I've put some money together to buy a bike.. now the problem is picking one so I'm asking for a little advice.

I originally started looking at the sports bikes, particularly the CBR600RR but insurance would be a nightmare seeing as I have a theft claim to declare (2 years ago, which left me bikeless for this long!) and 0 years no claims bonus.. so now I'm looking at the Kawasaki ER-6N or F although I've heard the N is overall better. Reason for looking at these is lower insurance, low seat height and not too powerful for someone that has only had 6days riding in two years, 2 of which were offroad and 4 were abroad on a 125 with a pillion a year ago. And, despite others criticisms, I quite like the looks of it, especially in orange and black or black with the red frame.

So, has anyone owned one? I've seen a lot of the market, which concerns me a little, are there any really bad problems with these bikes? I've read about them being bad for vibes and a hard seat, is there anything else?

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PostPosted: 13:42 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back to the human race. Very Happy

Get yourself down to Inmoto and see what they have Wink
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually I was across the road from them last weekend in Nick's place having a look at his bikes.. No Aprilia's for me, the Pegaso is ugly and the Shiver is an automatic.. I'd be tempted by a KTM but I'd go to Brackens for that Smile
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is Nick's place? The one next to Two Brothers or Renegades.

Was it you that used to sometimes help chain up the bikes in the place next to Two Brothers? (going off topic completely)
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a few on here have the ER6, I'm sure they'll be along soon.
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig23 had an f for a bit, in fact I think he may still have it, but is selling it as he bought his super four.

The 'pup also has an F for his couriering work. I doubt he would select a bike he wasn't sure was going to be good.

I likes them myself, can't really see why you would need more for the road. I would probably get an F, for the protection of the fairing if you do a lot of long riding or motorway work, but the N looks better (I like the looks a lot) if you are only going to use it for fun and round town.
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minty wrote:
What is Nick's place? The one next to Two Brothers or Renegades.

Was it you that used to sometimes help chain up the bikes in the place next to Two Brothers? (going off topic completely)


Nick's used to be Bonanza bikes, then they split, on the left is Classic Runners and the right is Nicks one called Maverick Motorcycles. If you mean Two Brothers cafe then yeah that would've been me.. briefly. I miss that cafe, those guys are great Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
Craig23 had an f for a bit, in fact I think he may still have it, but is selling it as he bought his super four.

The 'pup also has an F for his couriering work. I doubt he would select a bike he wasn't sure was going to be good.

I likes them myself, can't really see why you would need more for the road. I would probably get an F, for the protection of the fairing if you do a lot of long riding or motorway work, but the N looks better (I like the looks a lot) if you are only going to use it for fun and round town.


Well that's good to know some others do like them, I was getting worried that I was looking at completely the wrong type of bike! I think it'd do me well, plus an 06 isn't too pricey, I'd pay the same for a much older CBR! There are 4 at Laguna's in Maidstone so might pop down to visit a friend and drag him in there, otherwise there are a few private sales going too Smile
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be PM'ing Craigs23 right now if I were you. Wink
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 28 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
I'd be PM'ing Craigs23 right now if I were you. Wink


He's asking for more than I want to spend, £3k is my absolute max but only if it's the most amazingly perfect specimen of an ER6, so I've been finding 06-07 models up for sale all over MCN, ebay, autotrader etc but not gumtree as all the adverts I enquire into they ask me to put my money in a moneygram account.. bloody scammers!
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know of a good ER6N in Worthing for £2250, on 5000 miles, 1st MOT not due till next year, heated grips, top box, FSH.

PM if you want the details...
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PostPosted: 16:47 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're not bad bikes, and put together quite nicely - the later models have some interesting details - if you can get past the slightly odd looks in the first place.

They're comfortable, just about the right amount of power for the road if you're a relatively sane rider, go okay, stop well, nice in town and traffic, frugal....a bit of a 'get what it says on the side of the tin' kinda bike. Suspension's merely adequate though - very choppy when pushed on a poorly surfaced road and a bit pogo stick like when carrying a passenger. At legal speeds, or just a little over, it's fine though.

I test rode an N, but went for the F in the end - better provisions for the 60 mile a day commute, and I thought that would only get more comfy when winter sets in again. You're essentially buying the same bike underneath, although I agree, the N arguably looks better.

I've been offered around £3250 as a part ex by a dealer and if I don't get anything better than that, that's what I'll end up doing. Bike has never seen rain, has had its first service, 09 model with 1400 on the clock...
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why are you set on an ER6 when you fancy something like a 600RR eventually? I don't know what the insurance would be like for you but I'd be looking at Hornets 99 onwards.

You can pick up a decent one for 1700 and for me (21, new license blah blah blah) it was £340 TPFT on insurance and that was without even really looking it into it and playing them off against each other.

A Hornet is an IL4 so would get you used to the power delivery ready for when you want to step up to a 600RR, not to mention the money you'd save.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why bother with a hornet when you can get a speed four? Wink
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

mr jamez wrote:
Why bother with a hornet when you can get a speed four? Wink


S4 is surely more expensive. Oh and it looks like a pig on wheels Wink
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Finally Getting Back to Biking... Reply with quote

alliamc wrote:
2 of which were offroad and 4 were abroad on a 125 with a pillion a year ago. And, despite others criticisms, I quite like the looks of it, especially in orange and black or black with the red frame


I take it your quite intrigued by the off road 125's on orange and black?

I'm gonna look a bit out of place since most people are recommending big bikes like CBR's and Hornets Embarassed

This is my bike though, fits what you put, and it's a 125, dunno if that is the sort of thing you're after?

It's a brilliant little 125, done me well and never let me down.

https://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu299/milkster125/OptimizedP240509_1140.jpg
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My er6f was very similar insurance to my cbr600rr and i'm nearly 20 so still young.

In hindsight i wish i'd not spent the time i did on the kwak and gone straight for the cbr, although i do appreciate the cbr more now.
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Finally Getting Back to Biking... Reply with quote

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Why are you set on an ER6 when you fancy something like a 600RR eventually? I don't know what the insurance would be like for you but I'd be looking at Hornets 99 onwards.


Hornets really don't do it for me at all Sick A CBR600RR is group 17 and ER6 is Group 10/11 and because I have a theft claim from 2 years ago they seem to bump up my insurance quite a lot. I laughed at the Carole Nash bloke when he said £900 fully comp. Bennetts offered £450 so I reckon I'll find cheaper with a smaller broker.

milkster125 wrote:
I take it your quite intrigued by the off road 125's on orange and black?


Defo not after a 125, I did two years on a 125 then 2 years on a 400 so a 650 seems right for progression. I wouldn't go backwards now, when I rented the 125 abroad it was fun being reminded of my 125 days but I got fed up with the lack of power after a first few hours, especially when carrying a pillion!

Imonster has sent me a link to a guy selling a silver ER-6N for £2250 so will check that out, although it's got some rusting so need to see if that's purely cosmetic otherwise I may as well go and pay £2750 for the orange one I love in Guildford which is from a dealer so I'd get warranty, PDI etc
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah i was being pretty stupid Embarassed sorry.

Even now i would love to have a 600 or something, you do get fed up of the power.

I don't no why i thought you would be interested in a 125, i guess i took what you put the wrong way Crying or Very sad

Best of luck choosing though, everyone finds a good bike out there somewhere Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the Hyosung GT650R

Now they're nice bikes Cool

If you Google it and look at the orange and black one, i should think you'll like that Thumbs Up

Read good reviews, and seen a few, lovely bikes.
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were it me, I'd go for a £1k SV650 and start saving for the tarty bike of your dreams Smile.

The 650s are at most a 'sideways' step from a 400, rather than an upwards step I'd say. Bit 'easier to ride', but also tend to have a bit lower top speed and not as good handling.

I'd also consider looking at a bit older 600 at a decent price - SRAD maybe? Insurance should be cheaper.
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can have my 04 Kawasaki ZR-7S for £1700. I'm robbing myself, but it's done nothing but sit about this year.
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