Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


LED indicators vrs. Tell tale in dash

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> The Workshop
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

OLD USER
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:18 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: LED indicators vrs. Tell tale in dash Reply with quote

I not long ago got my first bike, a Sachs 125.

The problem is that its first owner put LED indicators on and now the dash tell tale only works for one side.

Electrics aren't really my bag so and I have no idea where to start... HELP?

Oh, and MOT time is only a week away so there is no pressure to get it sorted. Bugger!

Thanks, Jamie.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

serlant
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 06 Jul 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:47 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

any chance the bulbs just gone in the dash?
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

OLD USER
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 11:06 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its just a single bulb that serves both left and right flashers and the bulb works for the left side but not the right?

Apparently its something to do with the LEDs being lower voltage than the standards, but why does it work one way and not the other.

Like I said, electricity is a mystery to me!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

finpos
World Chat Champion



Joined: 13 Sep 2005
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:59 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Educated guess is that it will be the way the tell tale is wired. You'll need a wiring diagram to check, but:

Each side of the indicator circuit left/right will be wired to one terminal on the tell tale bulb. I have no idea how this works, but when the left side is flashing, it gets it's earth through the right hand side bulbs and vice versa. By introducing diodes, this is messed up.

You'll probably need to re-wire the tell-tale to make it work, but you'll need a wiring diagram and some knowledge of how diodes work. And maybe more diodes.

f.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Timmeh
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:23 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

finpos is correct, this is exactly what happened when i stuck some LEDs on the rvf for a giggle.

In a nutshell you have to change a fair bit, if it works like my bike then I ended up having to lose the single bulb altogether and use 2 12v flashing LEDs to do the job. I spliced into the loom where the switchgear connects to the main harness. You can't just wire a normal bulb to both ends else you create a short and both sets of indicators will flash in either position. A diagram explains it best.

The only flaw in this is of course that the telltale will flash even if the indicators don't work. Not sure if this is an MOT fail or not.

HTH

Thumbs Up
____________________
GSXR400 x2 | '94 RVF400 | '93 TZR125 4DL (again)
20:22:30 BLUEX5: i would love to be forced to undergo a**l plugging with different sizes
20:48:18 Temeluchus: comp you hunk of smouldering homos3x you


Last edited by Timmeh on 19:29 - 30 Aug 2009; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Timmeh
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 19:24 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

here ya go
____________________
GSXR400 x2 | '94 RVF400 | '93 TZR125 4DL (again)
20:22:30 BLUEX5: i would love to be forced to undergo a**l plugging with different sizes
20:48:18 Temeluchus: comp you hunk of smouldering homos3x you
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

OLD USER
L Plate Warrior



Joined: 02 Jun 2009
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:14 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Legend, thanks!

I suspect that I'll end up using your idea and changing it slightly by just picking up some cheap standard indicators for the sake of the test.

After that though I'll maybe give them a go again, I don't like being beaten by daft things like that!!

Thanks again, really appreciate it.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Timmeh
World Chat Champion



Joined: 01 Nov 2006
Karma :

PostPosted: 20:15 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

np

Wink
____________________
GSXR400 x2 | '94 RVF400 | '93 TZR125 4DL (again)
20:22:30 BLUEX5: i would love to be forced to undergo a**l plugging with different sizes
20:48:18 Temeluchus: comp you hunk of smouldering homos3x you
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 17 years, 10 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> The Workshop All times are GMT + 1 Hour
Page 1 of 1

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.08 Sec - Server Load: 0.54 - MySQL Queries: 13 - Page Size: 54.28 Kb