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Acemastr
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Old bike + high revs Reply with quote

I intend to do my test soonish and am hopefully looking for...say... a CBR600, now.... if said CBR is 15 years old and has done 20k miles, is this CBR going to like me taking it into the redline(often)? or is it going to tell me to fuck off and go pop? i very much doubt i'd have much service history behind it, and it'd have to be taken care of by myself when bought, but how robust are bike engines?
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give me one good reason why you want to redline your bike "often"....

Frequent redlining of any bike doesn't do the engine any good, no matter how bulletproof they are.

If you redline it, redline it in moderation, or not at all.
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Old bike + high revs Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:
how robust are bike engines?


CBR engines seem to be pretty damn robust. I wouldn't worry about it (took mine past the 40,000 mile mark on a trackday).
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

milkster125 wrote:
Give me one good reason why you want to redline your bike "often"....


Makes the bike scream and makes you look like a racer Twisted Evil

I've only ever had to redline the bike to get out of situations where i needed the power.

Pulling out from junctions and the like, might need to get as fast as i can in the shortest space of time to might redline, but it's pretty pointless.

Unless you want to ride past people at the redline and make them think 'n00b', don't do it too much Laughing

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PostPosted: 14:55 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try riding an 06 R6, that thing needed to be redline'd everywhere to get it to move!

No power below 10,000RPM sucks!
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine's 13 years old with 36,500 miles on it and the engine feels fine, there's plenty around with double that mileage and I never worry about it's reliability (unlike with my other bike).

I have no problem redlining it, though I don't all that often as you normally don't need that much power on the road. I've been getting bored of it for road use and was thinking of doing trackdays on it; never thought for a second that the engine wouldn't take the abuse, more worried about affording the tyres and brake discs and pads etc.

It's sort of for sale (still undecided so not advertised it anywhere else yet), local to you too as I'm in Cambs so PM me if you want to have a look Wink
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

20K should just about be run in Wink

600 should hardly need taking htat far unless yo uracing another bike....
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

milkster125 wrote:
Give me one good reason why you want to redline your bike "often"....

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Because he has a 125 on a CBT and dreams of being a fully fledged power-ranger.
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
milkster125 wrote:
Give me one good reason why you want to redline your bike "often"....

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Because he has a 125 on a CBT and dreams of being a fully fledged power-ranger.


Correct. plus i've only ever ridden an R1 and this YBR, change gears lots on the ybr, and not much on the R1.

What speeds would a normal CBR600 get me in each gear at redline? i'm guessing far too fast.
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
milkster125 wrote:
Give me one good reason why you want to redline your bike "often"....

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Because he has a 125 on a CBT and dreams of being a fully fledged power-ranger.


Laughing agreed
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:


What speeds would a normal CBR600 get me in each gear at redline? i'm guessing far too fast.



Approx:

1st 60ish
2nd 90ish
3rd 110ish
others i cant really remeber...

Of course all done on a private road Wink
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acemastr wrote:
What speeds would a normal CBR600 get me in each gear at redline? i'm guessing far too fast.

Plenty fast!! You really don't need to redline it to go fast, I go plenty fast and rarely exceed 10k, redline is at about 13.5k iirc.

Blackwolf wrote:
Approx:

1st 60ish
2nd 90ish
3rd 110ish
others i cant really remeber...

Of course all done on a private road Wink


6th will see 155 Thumbs Up Mr. Green

*cough* I did say rarely! And I nearly kept up with that R1 Razz
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont really think that the age of the motor has anything to do with how reliable it is, more about how its been ran/looked after in the past.

My 06 600 has just clocked over 26k and it still gets a thrashing regularly with no problems over than a little bit of a rattle (got to check the CCT)

I would say as long as said motor has been well serviced and warmed up properly before some abuse you shouldn't experience any problems.
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

6th will show 170 on the clocks..... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackwolf wrote:
6th will show 170 on the clocks..... Rolling Eyes


On the clocks, maybe... Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

So long as the engine is running properly, ie. no oil starvation or other horrible problems, what difference does I actually make?

Surely there is no inbetween ground?

Under the redline its fine, past that, and things go bang. So long as your not constantly bouncing it off the limiter, what difference does it make?

Or have i got the wrong end of the stick?
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR600 1997 model 50k miles and still running strong, really have nothing to worry about, just do the oil changes when needed
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PostPosted: 20:46 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My engine's done 68,000-odd miles and shows now signs of stopping yet.

I don't abuse it that much though.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackwolf wrote:
6th will show 170 on the clocks..... Rolling Eyes

Your clocks are fucked Thumbs Up

OR

Should have gone to spec savers.

And if it did 170mph, I would have passed the R1 whilst "shouting chamone mutha fucka!"
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Did you seriously get it doing 170, or you pulling my leg?
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PostPosted: 21:48 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noxious89123 wrote:
Blackwolf wrote:
6th will show 170 on the clocks..... Rolling Eyes

Your clocks are fucked Thumbs Up

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Should have gone to spec savers.

And if it did 170mph, I would have passed the R1 whilst "shouting chamone mutha fucka!"
https://img20.imageshack.us/img20/55/chamone.jpg

Did you seriously get it doing 170, or you pulling my leg?


Downhill with the wind behind ya, with a rope attatched to the busa you wittingly snared as he sped past?
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't say his clocks are fucked, sounds reasonable to me.

Top speed of these is what, 155mph or something? I'd bet that would be at least 170 on most speedos....although it would be over 300mph on an RS50s clocks Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The private road was a very long one and i was tucked so tight benieth the screen you couldnt get a gnats cock in Laughing


it was umm.... quick....
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PostPosted: 11:06 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My CBR is a 1994 and it hit's the limiter every fucking day.

That's why i chose it as my stunt bike, as it LOVES the abuse, it can handle the abuse, and the steel subframe means it loves to scrape tail aswell =P
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll be reet. They are built to take it.
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

If cared for reasonably it will be fine. I red line engines pretty regularly (use the rev range and keep it smooth round roundabouts rather than upsetting things trying to change gear), car and bike, irrespective of age.

All the best

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