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aLcOcK
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 29 Aug 2009    Post subject: NSR 125 removing top end Reply with quote

hi,
I have just bought my self an used nsr 125 engine

current one with gear box gone:
11,000 miles
V reg
starts first time everytime with no fail

used one off ebay:
19,000 miles
X reg
Gear box working

My current nsr's gear box has gone so i have bought this engine simply for the gear box to do a swap over as i want to keep my engine because it has 11,800 miles and is also a more recent reg i think.

so i want to take apart both engines just to swap the gear box over so i want to remove the top end of both engines and put them both back together.

Can you please give me a simple guide or even pictures on how to do this me and my dad will be doing this so we should be able to do it.
Every little detail will help and also warnings will also and what to do once the engine is back together such as compression and that.

many thanks for looking and even more thanks for helping me out
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alains
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

look here , just ask which side play has the conrod on the crank (must be less than 0.6mm)
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HONDA-NSR-125R-FOXEYE-MODEL-JC22-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ300341273310QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item45edbc22de&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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aLcOcK
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

alains wrote:


hi, thanks but i've already got an engine off ebay i now have 2 of them sitting here right now so i just want to swap the gear boxes around which is the bottom end i take it, thanks
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alains
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PostPosted: 10:31 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

basicaly , take off fairings , radiator all bits attached from the frame to engine . here is the manual section 6
https://www.geneva-racing.ch/~alains/engine.zip
before swapping your top end i recommand to check the sideplay between conrod & crankshaft , it's very important for your top-end . this must be under 0.60 mm which is the max tolerance
if you want the whole workshop manual look here
https://www.geneva-racing.ch/~alains/NSRmanualDOC.zip (64 Mo)
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aLcOcK
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

alains wrote:
basicaly , take off fairings , radiator all bits attached from the frame to engine . here is the manual section 6
https://www.geneva-racing.ch/~alains/engine.zip
before swapping your top end i recommand to check the sideplay between conrod & crankshaft , it's very important for your top-end . this must be under 0.60 mm which is the max tolerance
if you want the whole workshop manual look here
https://www.geneva-racing.ch/~alains/NSRmanualDOC.zip (64 Mo)


thank you so much mate i appreciate you help Smile thanks
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salty21
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PostPosted: 10:48 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i remember right the conrod does have a fair ammount of side to side play on the crankshaft connecting pin thingy.....as in it will slide on the pin a bit, i take it you mean play in the big bearing? i could be wrong though Laughing
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alains
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

no , the crank is in 2 bits with 2 friction washers on each side of the conrod . when new the side play is 0.20 to 0.25 mm and after some years the side play get bigger . the limit is 0.60mm and if it's bigger this can dammage the piston , barrel and the bearings
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah my bad, had a look at my old engine today and it was the piston that has side to side play not the conrod
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