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timboellis
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Gear lights? Reply with quote

Me and a work colleague were talking about forgetting what gear we were in and wondered is there such a bike that has light or an indication of what gear you are in?

Just out of curiosity
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it really matter? Yeah it would be nice, but you know whether to shift up or down, only thing would be a 1st and top indicator, so you dont try and shift down/up again.
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Gear indicator Reply with quote

Yeah thought of that but just curious there must be someone that has it as a factory bike or someoen modded one at some point.

Just found one from a company Acumen that do them as a add on can learn up to 8 gears apparantly
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine has an LED display, showing gear number Smile
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I went for my CBT training, there was a Yamaha bike there with a gear indicator built into the clocks. I think it was a SR125, I ended up riding a CG instead so didn't get to play with it.

I think it was stock but it might have been aftermarket. If you listen to your bike eventually you will learn your rev ranges and hopefully be able to tell Smile
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only ever seen Haotian's with them one... My mate and his dad have them (a Vixen and something else) and they've both got a display for the gear.
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 30 Aug 2009    Post subject: Gear Reply with quote

Seen this site to make your own, however I cant see the difference

https://home.comcast.net/~gsf1299/BanditGear/
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Re: Gear Reply with quote

timboellis wrote:
Seen this site to make your own, however I cant see the difference

https://home.comcast.net/~gsf1299/BanditGear/

What do you mean you can't see the difference? theres 4 leds above the neutral switch which come on.
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Gear lights Reply with quote

Ahhhhh that me being thick see it now
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PostPosted: 00:18 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ariel have had them since the introduction of the CP Burman box in about 1935. A little metal indicator that points to numbers on the box itself. Stupid idea, you need to bend so that you can see your foot to use it, I bung the little pointers in the scrap bin when I rebuild one.
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PostPosted: 00:28 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:39 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

check this out, dunno how well it works though but anyway take a look

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Digital-Gear-Display-Unit_W0QQitemZ320417656371QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Motorcycle_Parts?hash=item4a9a616e33&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My GSX has them built into the instrument pannel. Was standard on some bikes during that era. It's very handy...

For the life of me I cannot fathom why it was not carried on. Anti-dive units yeah but gear indicators?
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will get used to not knowing and it becomes a lot more natural, but still if I am going for a quick ride rather than around town ride I often get messy around first and neutral (still improving) but most common is shifting down into first when I want second-first to second is a huge jump compared with second to third I find.

There is also the issue if you are cruising on the motorway you try and change up again.
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PostPosted: 02:16 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yuri2085 wrote:
You will get used to not knowing and it becomes a lot more natural, but still if I am going for a quick ride rather than around town ride I often get messy around first and neutral (still improving) but most common is shifting down into first when I want second-first to second is a huge jump compared with second to third I find.

There is also the issue if you are cruising on the motorway you try and change up again.


Like said you will get used to it
i dont think anybody NEEDS one on their bike as you will be able to feel / hear what gear your in

I got mine for the TRE but have found i love the gear indicator just as much as the deristrictor Razz
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PostPosted: 02:23 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got one Very Happy

Its one a CBR600RR and its been added on byt he previous owner
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

yuri2085 wrote:
There is also the issue if you are cruising on the motorway you try and change up again.


Compare rev's to mph and you should know when your in top.

As to why manufacture's don't put them on...

Cost and more things to go wrong....
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Lifan LF-125 (CG rip-off) I did my CBT on had them (it also had an annoying bleeeeep for the indicators). Thing is, you came to depend on them and I was convinced it wouldn't go into second because '2' wasn't coming up. Instructor rode it around and confirmed it was in second, it just wasn't telling me it was.
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

the K7 gsxr 750 i test rode had a gear number display too

edit: a built in one i should say
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My GS has one, has tape over it as I know what gear I am in and don't need to be told. There ok for noobies who don't know how to ride yet but once your used to the bike you shouldn't need it.
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Real men don't need them Wink
2. Who needs another distraction? While you're busy checking what gear you're in the person in front could slam their brakes on. Bam.
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're unreliable anyway.

The one on my GSX only works in gears 1-3. The sensor is near the front sprocket so the wires are easily broken.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crana wrote:
1. Real men don't need them Wink
2. Who needs another distraction? While you're busy checking what gear you're in the person in front could slam their brakes on. Bam.


Just like when you're busy checking your speedo, or your tach, or anything at all for that matter.

I'm pretty sure you could see what gear your in with your peripheral vision, and if not you're talking fractions of a second to check.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to check it while in a position where you are likely to hit the car infront because you moved your eyes away for fractions of a second.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

metalangel wrote:
The Lifan LF-125 (CG rip-off) I did my CBT on had them (it also had an annoying bleeeeep for the indicators). Thing is, you came to depend on them and I was convinced it wouldn't go into second because '2' wasn't coming up. Instructor rode it around and confirmed it was in second, it just wasn't telling me it was.


Ah, you bring back memories. This was my first bike and I rode it for about 9 months. I stuffed some foam in to the beeper thing for the indicators and it shut them up though.

Every person I've talked to with this bike said that the gear indicator thingy had problems, even mine wouldn't show 2nd sometimes. It worked by having optical cables going in to the gear box and if the end of one got dirty then that gear wouldn't show. I guess it made it easier for me to start learning but I think I would have been just fine without.

Anyway, I'm riding my CG now and I'm a lot happier without something telling me my gear. Although, if a £500 Chinese CG copy bike can have a gear indicator, I don't see why Japanese bikes couldn't as standard as well.
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 31 Aug 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

david_m213 wrote:
Crana wrote:
1. Real men don't need them Wink
2. Who needs another distraction? While you're busy checking what gear you're in the person in front could slam their brakes on. Bam.


Just like when you're busy checking your speedo, or your tach, or anything at all for that matter.

I'm pretty sure you could see what gear your in with your peripheral vision, and if not you're talking fractions of a second to check.

You'd have to be pretty stupid to check it while in a position where you are likely to hit the car infront because you moved your eyes away for fractions of a second.


My sentiments exactly.

The only indication I would like is re-assurance of top gear.

Occasionally I find myself kicking up when I am already in 6th. Reading the tacho doesn't give that much info. The rpm is almost identical between 5th & 6th
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