Proof of the existence of an intelligent Creator+His purpose

[andersbrander...]

Here follow the proofs:
Scientists have always inferred the origin of the universe by reversing the observed state of the universe. At first, the universe was thought to be static. Thus, science held that the universe simply "always was." Then scientists theorized that gravity must cause the universe to shrink. Thus, science changed its mind, inventing the "Big Bang" Theory. It wasn't until 1998 that astronomers discovered that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate. Reversing an accelerating expansion to see back in time produces a universe that shrinks at a decelerating rate as one goes back in time to its origin. Follow this process to its ultimate and the rate of shrinkage reduces to converge with timespace where both are zero. That is, both shrinkage and timespace stop at timespace=0. Thus, timespace has a beginning.

From timespace=0, scientists hold that nothing in the universe magically "popped in" with no cause. It is a fundamental law of physics that every physical occurrence in the universe has a cause.
The fundamental laws of physics then require a cause of the universe ex nihilo; i.e., a Prime Cause Singularity that is non-dimensional and independent of timespace. In contrast to endless opinionating of innumerable pseudo-scientific religionists, science recognizes the necessity of a Prime Cause ex nihilo

No eminent scientist represents that our perfectly-orderly universe can be explained ex nihilo without a Prime Cause. Being logically consistent (orderly), the universe must mirror its Prime Cause / Singularity-Creator—Who must be Perfectly Orderly; i.e. Perfect. Therefore, no intelligent person can ignore that our purpose and challenge in life is learning how we, as imperfect humans, may successfully relate to a Perfect Singularity-Creator without our co-mingling, which transcends the timespace of this dimensional physical universe, becoming an imperfection to the Perfect Singularity-Creator

An orderly Creator necessarily had an Intelligent Purpose in creating this universe and us within it and, being Just and Orderly, necessarily placed an explanation, a "Life's Instruction Manual," within the reach of His subjects—humankind.

It defies the orderliness (logic / mathematics) of both the universe and Perfection of its Creator to assert that humanity was (contrary to His Tor•âh′ , see below) without any means of rapproachment until millennia after the first couple in recorded history as well as millennia after Abraham, Moses and the prophets. Therefore, the Creator's "Life's Instruction Manual" has been available to man at least since the beginning of recorded history. The only enduring document of this kind is the Tor•âh′ —which, interestingly, translates to "Instruction" (not "law" as popularly alleged). (Source: See below website)

Religions that contradict Torah, therefore, are the antithesis of the Creator.

If you accept formal logic and science you will agree with this formal logical proof. Continued reading of how to relate to the Creator you will find in this website: [link edited by G] https://www.venganza.org/ [/edit]

Anders Branderud

[wizzzard]

can I just ask one question?

What the fuck was all that about?
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[Dragonfly]

Does not compute.
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Muzza on Binge:
He's too busy beating the everloving shit out of Lizzie to notice this thread has taken a turn down Drama Avenue and stopped off at the popcorn shop.

[wizzzard]

Well it was only a matter of time. We have had spam from everywhere else, it was inevitable the religious nut jobs would join in at some point.
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[KevTM]

Thus, timespace=spam.

[Villers]

[Throttle]

Winds me up junk like this.

This is a motorbike forum, not a religious debate. If people don't believe in God and you do, why does it matter?

Do arseholes like yourself have to force religion on people because you are insecure about your own beliefs?

Who cares how the Earth appeared?

I believe Dom Joly summed it up best when he said to a preacher like yourself. "Jesus never used a megaphone, why should you?"

[Kwaks]

Well anders, I read and surprisingly, did follow all that. However I suggest you may want to read it yourself seeing as it contradicts itself early on, then jumps onto a completely different tangent (claiming one thing is proof of something completely different).

the universe must mirror its Prime Cause / Singularity-Creator

Why must it mirror its Prime Cause, and where the Fuck did this creator suddenly appear from?

Who must be Perfectly Orderly; i.e. Perfect

So someone with a compulsive disorder is perfect

Perfect Singularity-Creator

This a new person suddenly appearing at the party? or is this still Prime Cause/Creator you made up earlier?

An orderly Creator necessarily had an Intelligent Purpose in creating this universe and us within it

Not that intelligent then, what with giving us free will and all.

If you accept formal logic and science you will agree

Well I do accept them...

you will agree with this formal logical proof

Which is neither logical or proof? You have displayed neither.



TBH Anders, if there is a God, I do not want to be associated with him, simply because he allows children to be abused and harmed, kittens and puppies to be treated badly and fuckwits like you to represent him
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[wizzzard]

[Kwaks]

Oh just clicked that website, and cannot believe it


One question for you Anders, who killed the son of this god you speak about?

Ok not one question, cause I am not perfect lol

Why are you occupying the land belonging to the Palestinians?

Why are you invading Palestinian land?

How can you not see how hypecritical and repulsive you and your people are to the majority of the world?

If, as Jews believe, god created Jews to provide an example of ethical behaviour, how can all of the above be justified?

Obviously Jews also believe money lending to be ethical? Or is this just another example of their hypocrasy.


TBH I think we should help all religious zealots, by helping them "meet" their makers quicker. A lot quicker
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[Skudd]

There must be a God, how else would I know when to break for a corner? Race up to a corner, see God, then break.
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[Hetzer]

[Harold_Shand]

Modern thought being applied to religion doesn't work. Use your noggin for better things than trying to make that old clap-trap fit for this day and age. You're flogging a dead horse, religion is OVER.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

[s44678]

Love it.

Just because some things are as yet unexplained (such as the origin of mass) doesn't mean you can default to 'God did it' for your explanation, you great big fucking spastic.

Science has enlightened us through centuries by experiment and the dedications of millions of intelligent people. In fact, right at this very moment we are building the biggest single experiment ever in the history of everything (Large Hadron Collider) to search for the origins of the universe.

More than I can say for the God believers. What the fuck have you ever done to advance knowledge and civilisation? I don't see a Large God Detector being built anywhere. Everything you do, say and believe in aims to drag us backwards. Fuck you.



/rant.

[Blue_SV650S]

[silky666]

[Blue_SV650S]

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[deepfriedmars...]

[Stelmer]

Invent a time machine and go find out how the universe and everything became into existence.

If God made it, who or where does he come from?

[Dragonfly]

*Internet high fives Skuff and Harold *
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Muzza on Binge:
He's too busy beating the everloving shit out of Lizzie to notice this thread has taken a turn down Drama Avenue and stopped off at the popcorn shop.

[Kwaks]

Well I took Anders advice and have spent the last 24 hrs reading up on his stuff.


Very interesting,, and I made a very insightful discovery







It seems that religion is very much alive!!!




As is God!!!!!





I even identified him!!!!



NOW KNEEL BEFORE ME YOU HEATHAN BASTARDS

THINGS ARE GONNA CHANGE AROUND HERE
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[hellkat]

Speaking of anders'es

Where IS that obnoxious little prat who used to be on here who was called just "anders"?

I kinda miss him.
*clouts self round the head with an iron bar*
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Not nearly as interesting in real life.

[Dragonfly]

[hellkat]

Don't think so.
But he were definitely weird.
Used to take delight in emailing me calling me a fat cunt, or slagging me off for something.

Never had hate mail before -
(or since, come to think of it)

Well, not without provoking it, or "asking for it" in flame wars and certainly not on here.

Actually got some sense out of him once or twice, after a while.

Got the feeling he wanted to be friendly, in some warped way, like those boys who pull your hair but really fancy you ...
Problem was, he tried to tell me how I should live/what's wrong with the things in my life.

Never goes down well with me.

Strange fucker, anders ... yeah ... yeah.
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