How I can not lean

[kawashima]

I'm not good at cornering. I made a video how I can not lean.
Is there any tip for I can lean more?
Should I open wider to lean more? or lean more and then open wider??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2YN8CfO8Kg&fmt=18
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[Wilson123]

Lean more to open wider :/

Maybe you're just scared, what bike do you have? I try not to lean too far on my ped as obviously the wheels are tiny in comparison to a superbike and sometimes it slides out :l
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[Hetzer]

What bike are you riding?
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[kawashima]

I ride kawasaki W650. I'm scared to lean.
https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/kawashima_/IMG_0554-1.jpg
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[MaybeGuy]

its not really the sort of bike that does leaning very well.
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[kawashima]

Is it better to buy a more sporty bike like ER-6f to practise cornering?
Is it worth to practise on W650? or it's not so worth(or pointless)?
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owned: 2012 YB125SP, 2008 TDM900, 2005 W650, 2002 LS125R, 2002 CB400SF, NS50F, C50 / Trip to UK(2009), Hokkaido touring(2013)

[Hetzer]

[instigator]

Why on earth would you want to lean more?

P.S Lovely bike.

[kawashima]

[Hetzer]

[instigator]

[Wilson123]

Lmao I expected you to have a sports bike

You should get one if leaning tickles your pickle
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Doug97 wrote: Fuck you, what they did was awesome. You just wish you had the balls to be like them, instead of being constantly afraid that there's a rule somewhere out there you might be breaking.

[T0MMY]

In my experience you can lean most bikes further than you initially think you can. That said my experience is limited to sports bikes and trailies and sportyish commuters like my Honda Bros and GPZ, never had a cruiser style bike. All of them will lean a lot, even my XT on non-road legal knobblies. Are you reaching the limits of lean because the tyres are giving way or because you aren't confident to lean further? It's worth learning how far you can lean a bike as one day you may prevent yourself crashing...a lot of people understeer themselves off the road as they don't think they can turn any harder when they've overcooked a corner. Find a quiet roundabout with lots of run off and circle it faster and faster whilst keeping a smooth partial throttle, you'll be surprised how far you can lean*

*disclaimer...this may lead to you crashing I know nothing about cruisers but something like a Bros or GPZ will ground out before the (average) tyres let go.
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[T0MMY]

Actually, sorry to double post but I just saw the video. Seems like you're getting a decent lean angle given the bike, maybe a bit less confident on right handers but that's due to the adverse camber and lack of run off and affects most riders. Nothing to worry about there
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[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

Not watched all the vid, but looks like you're riding within your limits and the bikes. Entering corners correctly, maybe running a little wide on a couple of right exits (nit picking) But compared to most riders i see (incl me) you're positioning is pretty spot on.

Lovely road by the way

Pat
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[kawashima]

Thanks for your advises and comments! They were very helpful
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owned: 2012 YB125SP, 2008 TDM900, 2005 W650, 2002 LS125R, 2002 CB400SF, NS50F, C50 / Trip to UK(2009), Hokkaido touring(2013)

[Luke_Retrofly]

Looks fine to me

[D O G]

Great road positioning.

As it has been said, your bike is not built for leaning far.

Personally I think an ER6 would be spot on for road riding, and offer a good next step.

Jumping straight to a sportsbike from a crusier would be a massive change, the ER6 would be good.

Why not take one for a test ride?

[EUMP]

To be honest I think your riding pretty well, but for the leaning maybe not enough speed, I think your nervous of doing it and your bikes not cut out for it! W650 aren't a leaner

ER6 could be used to lean on corners as it doesn't have beautifully clean shiny chrome bars hanging out
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