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PostPosted: 23:04 - 06 Sep 2009    Post subject: 9/11 conspiracy theories. Reply with quote

Now I know you all will have seen or heard of at least one conspiracy theory.

So what do you think?
I have watched every edition of 'Loose Change' and I am one that believes most of the stuff that has been put across on them.

Myself I believe it was all to do with oil money and gold. There was gold stored under one of the world trade centre (I think it was number 7). I believe the towers were rigged with explosives but who set them off? The American goverment or Al-qaeda?
They did NOT fall because of the fire.

If anyone is interested... watch 'Loose Change'.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 06 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of the stuff in Loose Change is really stupid, then again, some of it makes sense.

I always liked the fact that one of the hi-jackers passports was found on a New York street. So on impact, his passport managed to escape from the burning inferno Laughing Yeah right.
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PostPosted: 23:53 - 06 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah that's what I'm talking about. It's stuff like that.

So flight 77 just fell out the sky then? And the last 3 mins of sound recording just disappeared off the tape?
Get real.
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PostPosted: 06:18 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has been done to death on here, and it usually results in a 5 page long tirade against one or two from both the for and against party.

Myself, whilst certainly there are definitely flaws in some of the theories of conspiracy, to be cliched, if only a fraction of it is true then there is something very very wrong going on.

So yeah, it certainly wasn't a bunch of pissed off muslims, but it wasn't directly the fuckwit Bush either, as there is no way he is competent enough to pull something like this off. The puppet master is likely a collective of higher-ups that remain lurking in the shadows.

IMO anyway

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PostPosted: 06:43 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bad guys + knives + plane + building = 9/11

That's my theory anyway, I'm always a firm believer that the simplest explanation is probably the right one.

The buildings fell due to inadequacies in the the structure when subject to extreme heat from the jet-fuel and fire. I've watched a documentary on why the buildings fell, which all seemed to make sense to me Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:26 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Follow the link for everything you need to know on the 9/11 conspiracy theory...
https://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
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PostPosted: 08:13 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly, conspiracy theorist can go suck balls.

You can find hidden meanings in anything, remember the Metallica song played backwards anyone?

Its all BS
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read this conspiracy nuts:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=2

And then remove your tin foil hats!
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PostPosted: 09:12 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wether it was the government or not it doesn't really matter now does it, it happened. 3,000 is fuck all people to die in a day, you only have to look at the Battle Of the Somme where on the first day 19,240 British men died.

I'd be more concerned over the fact that China, Pakistan & Iran are getting ever more powerful by the day, soon we will be the ones making their clothes & trainers for next to no money.

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PostPosted: 10:21 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find the trouble with conspiracy theorists is that they are usually completely incapable of accepeting any other version of events other than their own.

They are unfortunately a necessary evil though, as 1 out of 100 conspiracies will prove to be true, and while the rest of us dismiss them all (and are 99% right in doing so) it's the one time it is happening that the 1% will bring to light.

As far as 911 goes, I'm as open to it being a black flag operation (or at least someone in the Bush admin had an idea but deliberately failed to act to prevent it in order to secure more power) as much as it being nothing more than just a bunch of religious nutters hijacking a plane with a handful of odd coincidences that would occur in any major event.

Until Cheney, Rove and the rest of those evil sons of bitches are locked up for their crimes and cease to have access to power, I doubt we'll ever really know what happened anyway.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories. Reply with quote

cal91 wrote:
Now I know you all will have seen or heard of at least on conspiracy theory....

https://hdforums.com/forum/attachments/the-general-b-s-forum/61006d1249522406-are-you-tired-of-ridiculous-questions-asking-if-you-are-tired-of-ridiculous-questions-not_this_shit_again.jpg
someone had too!
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories. Reply with quote

cal91 wrote:

They did NOT fall because of the fire.


No they didn't,but i think the jumbo jets hanging out the side of them might have had something to do with it.

I can just imagine the designers drawing up the plans and making sure they wouldn't fall down,can it withstand an earthquake?-check,a fire?-check,a vehicle crashing into it?-check...........What about a hijacked plane flying directly into it?-well,erm,what are the chances of that happening?
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 07 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories. Reply with quote

dgo1212 wrote:
cal91 wrote:

They did NOT fall because of the fire.


No they didn't,but i think the jumbo jets hanging out the side of them might have had something to do with it.

I can just imagine the designers drawing up the plans and making sure they wouldn't fall down,can it withstand an earthquake?-check,a fire?-check,a vehicle crashing into it?-check...........What about a hijacked plane flying directly into it?-well,erm,what are the chances of that happening?


About the same as a twin-engined bomber flying into the Empire States Building in fog in the thirties.
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PostPosted: 06:39 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories. Reply with quote

dgo1212 wrote:
cal91 wrote:

They did NOT fall because of the fire.


No they didn't,but i think the jumbo jets hanging out the side of them might have had something to do with it.

I can just imagine the designers drawing up the plans and making sure they wouldn't fall down,can it withstand an earthquake?-check,a fire?-check,a vehicle crashing into it?-check...........What about a hijacked plane flying directly into it?-well,erm,what are the chances of that happening?


Errrrm I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure they did actually factor into the design the fact that it would be able to sustain an impact
from a jumbo jet flying into it.

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PostPosted: 09:21 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

9/11=0.818181818 Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:01 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories. Reply with quote

cal91 wrote:
They did NOT fall because of the fire.


No they failed because the steel structure was weakened by the impact and heat.
Which with so much weight above it caused the damaged sections to fail.

While they may have designed the buildings to withstand a fire, they were not designed to withstand the heat generated by a impact of a plane loaded with fuel and the resultant temperatures that were generated.
Even with steel encased in concrete that level of heat will cause it to weaken. You then have a situation were gravity plays a large part in the downfall.
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PostPosted: 10:08 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bullshit+bullshit=building 7=explanation collapse

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PostPosted: 10:31 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: 9/11 conspiracy theories. Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
cal91 wrote:
They did NOT fall because of the fire.


No they failed because the steel structure was weakened by the impact and heat.
Which with so much weight above it caused the damaged sections to fail.

While they may have designed the buildings to withstand a fire, they were not designed to withstand the heat generated by a impact of a plane loaded with fuel and the resultant temperatures that were generated.
Even with steel encased in concrete that level of heat will cause it to weaken. You then have a situation were gravity plays a large part in the downfall.


Sustained heat, not flash-heat.

The fuel in the jets was consumed long before it generated enough heat for a long enough time to weaken the steel. The argument that the steel was weakened to the point of deformation and collapse by any fire in the buildings is fallacious beyond belief.

Then you have the third building. Not affected by any fire or impact of significance, yet it collapsed. Exactly in the manner a deliberately demolished building collapses.

And people still say everything was on the up and up. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:39 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The planes and the jet fuel probably trained Atta at Maxwell Air Force Base, another at Lackland AFB, 3 at Pensicola Naval Air Station and the Defense Language School, had them at flying schools linked to CIA drug smuggling operations, made sure at least 6-15 military exercises were carried out on the same day, some of which mirrored the actual events occuring, all of which paralysed NEADS, had the head of the ISI wire Atta $100,000 a month before the attacks, had the CIA chief of station visit Bin Laden in Dubai in July, placed put options 600-1200% out of normal on ONLY the specific air lines impacted in the attacks from 6-10 September, placed through AB Brown up until 1998 managed by No.3 CIA, yeah it was jet fuel and a laptop in a cave in Afghanistan...

Gimme a fucking break.


For a different take on 9-11 go watch "Who Killed John O'Neill?" an interesting but very hard watch.
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thing that makes me laugh, is all the structural bullshit.

These towers would have been designed to withstand a plane hitting them, kinda comes with the build height incase one day one get's lost... and has it's wing ripped off

They are designed to withstand a degree of fire, cos it's a fook off building with no external staircase from't top and if the fire is 10th floor, you gotta whole lot'a people trapped up there. Wink


If a plane hit's a building that high up, surely there's more chance of it knocking the tower over? And the tower would go down leaning as it was hit from one direction; not centrally in a demolition stylee scene.

There's the speculation the owners/managers took out terrorist insurance only a week or 3 before the 'crime' and then there's vids on Youtube clearly showing flashes in the lower floors that are worryingly similar to explosives strapped to girders and pillars.



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PostPosted: 17:22 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
Read this conspiracy nuts:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=2

And then remove your tin foil hats!


Hahaha, no.

https://911research.wtc7.net/essays/pm/

https://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/100806popularmechanics.htm

https://www.serendipity.li/wot/pop_mech/reply_to_popular_mechanics.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WULRQCgvsdE

Popular Mechanics can kindly gtfo. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

popular mechanics Laughing Laughing dear fucking god Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:55 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mad_Mushroom wrote:
dear fucking god Laughing Laughing


Yes?
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PostPosted: 19:08 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:26 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

truslack wrote:
Do we have the whole family now? God, mary and jesus?

Jesus had two brothers.
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