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ashley5
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Am i aloud to park on the pavement ??? Reply with quote

Hi can anyone help ?

I parked my bike outside the local shopping centre on monday (ON THE PAVEMENT) Some old woman on a mobility scooter decided she would try and squeeze through the the gap in between the bike and the bollard crashed into my exhaust and pulled my bike over lots of damage can anyone help :cry:
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm...within reason.
Kinda swings some ways some places, and others everywhere else.
Someone on here got a ticket for parking on a path..which was a bit of an arsehole thing to do..it wasnt in the way or anything.

Round here, i park pretty much everywhere but the path, way too narrow, but say in town, i do..lamp posts are "chain-to" items Razz
If possible, get to a decent bike parking place OR bicycle parking with those weird rails, most people in towns dont care.. but again, you could have a knob of a warden around there Sad
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends where you live i can do it where i live but i wouldn't try it london or other gay places.
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can only park on the pavement if the vehicle is not causing an obstruction. Clearly you were causing an obstruction else the old lady wouldn't have knocked the bike over.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then again, we all know what old ladies and their motability scooters can be like...






















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You know you've seen it a million times before and you're *still* going to titter































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PostPosted: 22:49 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only you just know that's gonna be me in about 10 years time, innit.

My mate Tex has one, I've seen him ride it up the middle of Fulham Palace Road, whilst wearing a cowboy hat, the old coot. It's got a fooking great eagle on the front, if someone fell on it, they'd do themself a proper damage.

I'm gonna menace all you young cunts with a turbo-charged bath chair, not one of these stupid motability scooters, a proper bath chair, but with nitrous, and mag wheels, and flames on the sides Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you live and learn hey, the fault as far as the law is concerned is yours, if you park on the kerb the exhaust could be hot and a small child burns themselves on it, a blind person could injure themselves on it, a mother with a pram would have to go on to the road to pass which is a danger to her and her child, common sense really is to make sure there is plenty of room to pass and your pipes are against the wall and even at that you could still get a ticket depending on the reason for being there, who you are ( shop owner, currier ect ) and the mood of the police/traffic warden
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuckin health and safety nazis
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 08 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: Am i aloud to park on the pavement ??? Reply with quote

I don't think the legal 'fault' is his. Him parking on the pavement is a separate offence. Park in front of some one's drive and you're in the wrong, but if they drive into your vehicle, you can still claim.
However, trying to sue someone on a mobility scooter I can see causing all sorts of problems. The fact he suggests they had to 'squeeze past', rather than them intentionally going too close, does suggest that his actions aren't going to be looked upon favourably.
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PostPosted: 08:12 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Fuckin health and safety nazis
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+1. Thumbs Up.

A small child shouldn't be touching my exhausts at all, let alone enough to badly burn themselves.

I think if the old codger of a lady had to 'squeeze' past, your bike may have been a little bit of an obstruction. Laughing.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I have said this a few times.

In central London you cannot park on the pavement, wardens can also remove anything covering an identifying feature ie: numberplate (it is unclear if they can do this outside of London).

Outside of central London one can park on the pavement as long as it is not causing an 'obstruction', cars can also park on pavements but the criteria of no obstruction is a little more difficult to fulfill Smile
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikedemon99 wrote:
Well you live and learn hey, the fault as far as the law is concerned is yours, if you park on the kerb the exhaust could be hot and a small child burns themselves on it, a blind person could injure themselves on it,


That's just the kind of woolly thinking that results in all these melonheaded safety rules. If the bike was carefully parked on the road in a designated motorcycle parking bay numbnuts would STILL be able to burn themselves on it!! It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference!
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PostPosted: 12:44 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ashley5 wrote:
Hi can anyone help ?

I parked my bike outside the local shopping centre on monday (ON THE PAVEMENT) Some old woman on a mobility scooter decided she would try and squeeze through the the gap in between the bike and the bollard crashed into my exhaust and pulled my bike over lots of damage can anyone help Crying or Very sad


Your insurance if your full comp, if not no as it is your fault for parking on the pavement.

It is not legal to park on a pavement unless it says it is and there is a dropped kerb as it will be classed as obstruction (as you found out when someone using the pavement couldn't get past).



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That's just the kind of woolly thinking that results in all these melonheaded safety rules. If the bike was carefully parked on the road in a designated motorcycle parking bay numbnuts would STILL be able to burn themselves on it!! It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference!


Nothing melonheaded about it, they have been introduced for the people that lack common sense and try to park anywhere.
You pay road tax not footpath tax. Kids are not running around the road and a blind person would not be expecting a vehicle to be blocking his/her way on a footpath.
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Only you just know that's gonna be me in about 10 years time, innit...a turbo-charged bath chair, not one of these stupid motability scooters, a proper bath chair, but with nitrous, and mag wheels, and flames on the sides Twisted Evil

I've already penciled in one of these Tramper all-terrain buggy if/when I need to resort to such things (together with a suitably modified hammerhead trike of course).

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On topic.
Ok to park on pavement if...
(a) there are no other parking regulations in force for the highway.
(b) you don't cause an obstruction and don't obstruct a dropped kerb for access.

There was a recent piece on local news about a registered blind man who's dog had to lead him into the road because of cars parked on the pavement.

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PostPosted: 13:56 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may be too loud to park on the pavemant.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pyx_e wrote:
You may be too loud to park on the pavemant.


semantic humour Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

pyx_e wrote:
You may be too loud to park on the pavemant.


Damnit! someone beat me to the sound joke...
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ProvectusIncurro wrote:
pyx_e wrote:
You may be too loud to park on the pavemant.


Damnit! someone beat me to the sound joke...


there`s another one you could get the glory for if you look for it...(it basically revolves around the assumption that if you buy,sell,or look like someone who prepares, dishes of a specific ethnic origin..you have more,or maybe less,chance of getting a ticket.)



it definately gave ME a chuckle when i saw it but i`m not the grammar police so i let it slide Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're probably not alllowed, whether you'd get a ticket depends on local plod/traffic wardens being there/being fussed.

as others have pointed out thats besides the point.

good luck trying to get anything out of the old biddy. she obviously wont have insurance so you'd have to try and make a claim yourself through the small claims court. you got her details? you got witnesses?
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Allow it with the sound jokes.
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PostPosted: 20:14 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

take a word from me and just dont do it anywhere!
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

max power wrote:

there's another one you could get the glory for if you look for it...(it basically revolves around the assumption that if you buy,sell,or look like someone who prepares, dishes of a specific ethnic origin..you have more,or maybe less,chance of getting a ticket.)


for some strange reason after reading that the word "Nigerians" came to the front of my mind...
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PostPosted: 22:52 - 09 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doug97 wrote:
bikedemon99 wrote:
Well you live and learn hey, the fault as far as the law is concerned is yours, if you park on the kerb the exhaust could be hot and a small child burns themselves on it, a blind person could injure themselves on it,


That's just the kind of woolly thinking that results in all these melonheaded safety rules. If the bike was carefully parked on the road in a designated motorcycle parking bay numbnuts would STILL be able to burn themselves on it!! It wouldn't make a blind bit of difference!


Well only going off what a cop told me to do, if its on the kerb its more of an attraction to a small child and more reachable or do you not agree, unless ofcourse you dont give a fuck about other folk so long as your alright
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 10 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

bikedemon99 wrote:
Well only going off what a cop told me...on the kerb its more of an attraction to a small child and more reachable...

IMO the cop was spinning a story to fit the facts, good old school Life on Mars.

If that's the case a flashing neon sign in a shop on the other side of the road could be attractive to a child and cause it to run across the road. Is there a ban on neon signs? Why not ban roads so children can't be harmed running across them then?
In the case of a blind person if the bike was parked in such a way to damage them then IMO it's causing an obstruction so shouldn't be there. FWIW blind people do not crawl on the ground at exhaust level.

Plus why would a child be unsupervised and allowed to fondle an exhaust? Poor parenting there, not the responsibility of the bike owner. Maybe should ban children walking down the pavement then?

Health and safety gone mad. Why don't people have common sense any more and question these stupid statements. They're all about what could happen, not what is more likely not to occur.



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