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SRADkneedragg...
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 12 Sep 2009    Post subject: T-Shirt swap Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 23:30 - 12 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dealers over here don't really have T-shirts made specifically for their location.

Generally seems the same everywhere over here, you won't find many T-shirts with their towns/citys on them over here outside of sports or gift shops in London!
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 12 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it boils down to, we're not as patriotic as the yanks. The yanks love their country and everything about it, fly their flags etc.

We don't give a toss about our country like that.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/12_04/071rabcnesbitt_228x284.jpg

We dont do tshirts Mr. Green


On a serious note though most bike shops here in the uk are just brand dealerships the workers come in sell bikes go home thats it. Theres no real passion. The vast majority of shops/dealers dont even have tshirts and just want to shift as many bikes in a day as they can and as a result very few people wear shop branded shirts or have any loyalty to them.

Maybe you could look to the bike clubs over here theres a few patch clubs in my area and motorcycle clubs.

To name a few
Southport cruisers
Original southport cruisers
Southport riders (the best Mr. Green Thumbs Up )
North west bikers

Im sure a few of them would like to do a cross water shirt trade especialy the cruiser guys.
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PostPosted: 01:18 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: T-Shirt swap Reply with quote

I think the biggest independent in Reading does have some branded clothing. However, no chance I'd buy any or want to swap for any in the US really Smile.
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PostPosted: 04:00 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some shops might have staff clothing with the company name/logo on it, you could call a few and ask but its unlikely they would sell you one.
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PostPosted: 06:09 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 08:00 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SRADkneedragger wrote:
A shame really I thought it would be cool to have bike shirts from shops around the world. As for MC club patches/colors/ or T-Shirts thats a big No No here. MC Clubs (think Hells Angels) are very territorial and generally will not tolerate wearing another clubs patch or colors in their areas(people have died over this no kidding!).
So what about the aftermarket suppliers? We have T-Shirts from all of my Sponsors and most are pretty cool although I don't think any of them say "Anywhere USA" on them.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay-recoil wrote:
I guess it boils down to, we're not as patriotic as the yanks. The yanks love their country and everything about it, fly their flags etc.

We don't give a toss about our country like that.


we used to when the majority of the population was actually british.
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PostPosted: 16:05 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:

we used to when the majority of the population was actually british.


You think the majority of the people in Britain aren't British? You need to stop reading the Daily Mail Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

salty21 wrote:
jay-recoil wrote:
I guess it boils down to, we're not as patriotic as the yanks. The yanks love their country and everything about it, fly their flags etc.

We don't give a toss about our country like that.


we used to when the majority of the population was actually british.


Theres plenty of places around that fly flags (UK flag, English flag) outside their homes in England, you just might not be noticing them Smile


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PostPosted: 17:42 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay-recoil wrote:
I guess it boils down to, we're not as patriotic as the yanks. The yanks love their country and everything about it, fly their flags etc.

We don't give a toss about our country like that.

There's a difference between caring about your country and buying t-shirts/flying flags. One of my issues about the country is that many seem to think doing the aforementioned this is 'supporting' their country.

As above, I do see (to my mind) too many flags flying from windows.
I think town-specific clothing is well covered by football shirts.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im-a-Ridah wrote:

Theres plenty of placers around that fly flags (UK flag, English flag) outside their homes in England, you just might not be noticing them Smile


It does sort of say "BNP" when you see it here though, not like in the US of A.

When I lived in Bedford, my neighbour had a Union Jack hanging off his house. When the BNP members list got published I was curious so I had a look and sure enough, there he was Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:49 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I assume that people who wish to support this country in a BNP, C18 kind of way by wearing Tshirts and brandishing union flags etc only buy the ones that are not made in Tiawan, Malaysia, China or Japan, this probably applies to football strips as well.

The irony is pure win
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 13 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

redline wrote:
I assume that people who wish to support this country in a BNP, C18 kind of way by wearing Tshirts and brandishing union flags etc only buy the ones that are not made in Tiawan, Malaysia, China or Japan, this probably applies to football strips as well.

The irony is pure win


I don't see how it's ironic, being in the BNP doesn't mean that you should support UK workers being in sweat shops producing UK flags Smile
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 14 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, I see, sorry, I was only seeing the oxymoronic element of the patriotically sensitive subject.

I usually avoid politics, as you can clearly see Smile
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 14 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually agree with allot of the BNP's policies but Nick Griffin has been branded a racist and it will always stick. Some people will argue he is a racist but I don't think he is to be honest. Yeah, he may have been convicted of inciting racial hatred years ago but the context of that conviction is bollocks.

As per usual though, the media will always attach that stigma to the BNP and there are minority members of the BNP who are full on neo nazis but that's the same with ANY political party/religion, you always get a minority of fanatics.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 14 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay-recoil wrote:
I actually agree with allot of the BNP's policies but Nick Griffin has been branded a racist and it will always stick. Some people will argue he is a racist but I don't think he is to be honest. Yeah, he may have been convicted of inciting racial hatred years ago but the context of that conviction is bollocks.

His policies seem pretty 'racist' to me, however much he occasionally tries to pretend otherwise.
I occasionally have fun with BNP 'supporters' asking if I should be sent back to Botswana, as that's where I was born.
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 14 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The council I work for returned a BNP councillor to power in the early 90s. Derek Beacon looked like a mix between Cosmo Small-Piece and Fred Dibnah, with just a hint of kiddy fiddler.

Our mayor (Liberal) had installed a flag pole and union flag onto the front of our building (He used to wander round twitching and telling everyone his dad was a desert rat).

All the local head teachers petitioned to have the flag removed so as not to offend the local Bengali population. I pointed out that it was Bengal's flag for about 150 years too, but nobody listened to me.

The mayor spent a small fortune getting legal advice on whether as head of the education authority he could have a flag pole installed in every school and make the pupils salute it morning and evening like you see in American films. The answer was that if it had nowt to do with education then he couldn't compel them. The flag pole is still there, the flag is long gone.

What was not common knowledge was that the flag was washed every few weeks by being chucked in with the incontinent laundry. What a way to treat your nation's flag!
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 14 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
jay-recoil wrote:
I actually agree with allot of the BNP's policies but Nick Griffin has been branded a racist and it will always stick. Some people will argue he is a racist but I don't think he is to be honest. Yeah, he may have been convicted of inciting racial hatred years ago but the context of that conviction is bollocks.

His policies seem pretty 'racist' to me, however much he occasionally tries to pretend otherwise.
I occasionally have fun with BNP 'supporters' asking if I should be sent back to Botswana, as that's where I was born.


I don't think their policies are racist at all, I agree with allot of them in fairness and people will always tar them as racist as it's what our media has socially conditioned most people into thinking.

Their immigration policy doesn't ask that legal immigrants leave but offer them a cash incentive to leave if they wanted to take it. Illegal immigrants are different and they would call for the deportation of all illegal immigrants. I know that may not sound like the most encouraging policy, especially with you being born in Botswana but if you're a legal British immigrant than there's nothing to worry about.

What I do worry about is we will be a minority in our own country within 60 years if we don't control the immigration properly and our country will start to become an even grimmer place than it already is, never mind what it will be like for our children and their children.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 14 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay-recoil wrote:

What I do worry about is we will be a minority in our own country within 60 years if we don't control the immigration properly and our country will start to become an even grimmer place than it already is, never mind what it will be like for our children and their children.


Who's we? White brits or brits in general? And why would it be grimmer? To be honest, I know there are parts of the UK where the immigrant population commit a lot of crime but I live in an area where it's white people that are the problem. Fundamentally, chavvy, thieving, scumbag behaviour comes from poverty not skin colour so if you live somewhere with a poor immigrant population that's who's commiting the crime but you attribute it to race not wealth.

And as for not thinking Nick Griffin is racist, are you serious? Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 15 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How far back in history do we go before we say who 'we' are?

Go back to Africa? (actually I think the first 'homo sapiens' were in Europe, but then the population migrated back to Africa, give or take some facts)

You don't look very 'Celtic' from your picture so you should at least go back to France, maybe more northern Europe I would say.

Yes I am just making vague points which may or may not support my belief Smile

edit: Although I will say I do not support the INCREDIBLE racism in 'minority' communities but I think the vicious cycle was started by the 'native' population and then immigrant populations must distinguish themselves by race or w/e and be proud of it, as a sort of defiance against racism.
I do think one should not move to a country and expect not to follow that 'culture' but historically this has occurred and in honesty 'English' people are terrible at it when visiting other countries.
I guess a pet hate is (primarily?) Muslim communities defending practices which we despise because it is their religion; thinking it should be tolerated in the name of diversity.
Btw, my religion likes rape. (that was meant to be farfetched but as I type it I realise it is not Sad )

p.s.s Talking about religions like this is also pretty stupid because 'muslim' encompasses so many different beliefs and ideals, and like many religions is often twisted to support the ideas of whoever is pulling the strings; and doesn't really reflect on the actual 'religion' whatever the hell that means.
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PostPosted: 07:48 - 15 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last I read he wanted all people with a different ethnicity to leave, though he may have further softened his policies to try and claim some air of respectability.
Oh and I'm actually not a legal immigrant, wonder if I'd be deported?

I'd tend to agree with the above that problems in our country to some degree come from poverty - there's plenty of problems in similar areas regardless of colour.
Oh and I would agree that things should be 'done' about illegal immigrants. A good start might be for us to stop messing up some of their countries Razz.
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PostPosted: 09:25 - 15 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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in honesty 'English' people are terrible at it when visiting other countries.


I would agree that the 'English' people are mostly terrible when visiting other countries on holiday, however I would also say that when it comes to moving/living abroad we are generally very open minded and willing to adapt to other peoples cultures and traditions.
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 15 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay-recoil wrote:
I don't think their policies are racist at all, I agree with allot of them in fairness and people will always tar them as racist as it's what our media has socially conditioned most people into thinking.

Conditioned, my arse. If you don't think the BNP are a racist party then you're either stupid, or naieve.

I don't care if you're a fan of them or not, but at least have the balls or the sense to realise what they really stand for and be upfront about it. Rolling Eyes
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