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tutton
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PostPosted: 21:17 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Parents - where to go from here? Reply with quote

Well they started me off riding bikes when i was 12, currently 18, and theyve never been overly keen on me riding, this is my second crash since riding, both i walked away with little to no damage. This 2nd crash has taken out the whole front end of my FZR, i got up after crashing into a audi Neutral with not even a scratch on me, but now both the parents have taken a big disliking to be getting back on this is now a month after the crash and ive still got nowhere.
the old man has told me im not moving back under his roof while im riding a bike Sad
What can i do in this kind of situation? I would have thought a month would be plenty enough time to let things cool down...
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mine were the exact same after I rear ended an astra and they stayed in hospital for 8 hours watching me get minor surgery etc....

It took me around 3 months to get the bike back, I eventually nagged my dad enough to let me get it back because I got it back cheap and could do it cheap to sell it.

Then he decided he would not let me get anything else, deffo nothing bigger while I was living in his house. I played along, started riding mine again and they were wary but fine with it. Then I moved out.... Twisted Evil (I'm still to afford something bigger) and I know he will detest the idea, but it's what I want and nothing is going to stop me. Thumbs Up Fuckin hypocrit - he rode many big bikes during having accidents too. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
Fuckin hypocrit - he rode many big bikes during having accidents too. Rolling Eyes


Don't do as I do, do as I say.

Wait till you become a parent and you'll say the same.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats the part thats eating at my the most, this crash i got up with no damage to myself at all after riding into the back of a audi, as ive stressed to them i was wearing the proper gear. Dosnt seem to get through to them and it confuses my why such a minor (in the scheme of what the crash could have been had i been going faster etc) crash has now made me banned from bikes?
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Move oot.
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

7 crashes, 6 months...after every 1 my dad said he would cut it in half... 7th time he didnt...as its pretty much dead anyway Razz
after 7th time..i actually considered giving up..
8 months later, after learning to walk and havin the balls to get back on 1, bought me a cbr125 and havent looked back yet Very Happy
My parents...(mum anyway) is worried everytime i don the helmet Razz
Its just them worrying.. just start riding it... its only going to get better once ur out once a week..twice..3..all week.
Its how i got mine to warm up to the idea Very Happy

btw my parents threaten me with that 1 month shit.. if its not gone by then, you are..
So i looked around..found a cheap ass flat that i know they would hate me to live in, then make some shit up like with all the bills bla bla you would have £32 or something...they wont kick u out then Razz
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My parents encouraged me with biking, even when I came off big time. Should I be worried?
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

move the fuck out of your parents place. your 18 ffs,
you can do what you want, just not under their roof,
it seems pretty clear cut to me
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to meet your parents and give them a very quick lesson invoving three key phrases.

    Your old enough to look after yourself
    How is that my problem?
    Bye.


Works for me.
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:
st3v3 wrote:
Fuckin hypocrit - he rode many big bikes during having accidents too. Rolling Eyes


Don't do as I do, do as I say.

Wait till you become a parent and you'll say the same.


Aye, the thought of one of my hypothetical kids having a bike makes me feel sick. Sick

It makes me a complete hypocrite because my parents let me make my own choices in life and ride bikes. They're cool with me never restricting my bike. They are a bit uneasy about me riding though and do worry I end up crashing.

My dad put it this way to me:

"I think about what I would do if you crashed your bike and died. Although I'd be heartbroken if I lost you, I would take comfort in knowing that you died while doing what you enjoyed the most and didn't let risk hold you back from doing what you really wanted to do and live your life".

I guess it comes down to the difference between quantity and quality of life. There are people who have died at such a young age, but they still got lots out of their life because they did what they wanted to do.

thinking about it a bit more, my hypothetical kids may be allowed to ride, but it would depend on how much they would want it and they would need to bring me round on the idea. (if they can't bring me to accept the idea then they probably don't want it enough.

I guess it'd be hard to deny them the enjoyment, experience and opportunities that come with riding a bike. Especially as that is what my parents have allowed me.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

So bcf is telling me i have to moveout to get another bike, and there was me thinking there was perhaps another way to pitch this to them i guess not eh?
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

get some advanced riding course thingies, obtain A+'s and present. May sway them a little. Get a smaller, less sports-like bike, may sway them a little. Easier to move out though Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having 7 crashes in 6 months is a bit OTT, I would have suggested biking isn't for you.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mil17b wrote:
Having 7 crashes in 6 months is a bit OTT, I would have suggested biking isn't for you.


He says it's his 2nd crash.

Get a Honda Cub.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

david_m213 wrote:
Mil17b wrote:
Having 7 crashes in 6 months is a bit OTT, I would have suggested biking isn't for you.


He says it's his 2nd crash.

Get a Honda Cub.
padwaxk88 wrote:
7 crashes, 6 months...after every 1 my dad said he would cut it in half... 7th time he didnt

I was talking about this...
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you pay a decent rent, etc? If you do, it seems reasonable you can choose what you do - however of course it's still their home to do with as they please.
If not, maybe suggest you do chuck some money at them.

How about looking to do IAM or other 'advanced riding' course - get some literature and explain how this will give you very good odds to not having another accident.
(From someone that has crashed a lot more than most on here...) there is no decent 'reason' to crash if you're sensible and make a bit of effort.
Could also find some grusome car crash pictures, statistics about how dangerous many other activities and such like; to show that it's just as bad as many other hobbies they may not mind you doing.
I see a higher incidence of people being hurt playing football than riding bikes generally, I reckon.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mil17b wrote:

I was talking about this...


Sorry mate, my bad. Karma

You could always see if they would come to a compromise and chip in to get you a car. Biking weather is almost done anyway and it beats riding in the snow. Then you can think about getting a bike next year when the good weather kicks in. They might not be so worried if you're only riding once in a while.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They want me to get a car but i dont have a car license as of yet as my last car instructor was always ill so i lost all enthusiasm with learning Laughing
My mum works with a bloke who has offered to take me out doing advanced riding *when* i get back on the road.
I think the only way ill get back on the road is to do advanced and buy something like a 400 bandit with the restrictors, will be slow but beats walking i suppose? still will take alot of persuation i bet, nothing seems to get through, im not even that gutted about the bike being a state, more about not being able to ride because of them Sad
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PostPosted: 23:05 - 20 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell them you cant afford to get car lessons. Let them pay/lend for lessons and a shitter of a cage.

Wait for things to cool for 6 months then get another bike and you will have alternative transport for shitty weather days.

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PostPosted: 09:26 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My folks set the rule that I'd have to drive a car for a year or two before could get a bike. I'm glad I did, in retrospect, because it helped me form some road awareness, and I'd also figured out where the blind spots were; basically anything that's not in the 90 degree arc immediately in front of the driver...

Try doing some advanced rider training? It'll help set your parent's mind at ease, as well as helping the insurance quotes. Failing that, move out.
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PostPosted: 12:02 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they won't be convinced, move out, sorry.

My parents didn't approve of my learning, didn't approve of my buying the bike, were not impressed when I binned it (though that I was alive and intact was naturally more important) and are not thrilled that within a month I'd replaced all my gear and was sizing up a replacement.

BUT. I'm my own man, I'm old enough to be stupid and not have to answer to them.
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kill your parents and bury them in the garden?
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tutton wrote:
So bcf is telling me i have to moveout to get another bike, and there was me thinking there was perhaps another way to pitch this to them i guess not eh?


If they have set their minds on it....

And to be honest who's parents want to bury their kids.... I guess they think you have used all your luck as you walked away from this one.

You are never going to change their minds in a short time frame. I think you are talking more like they will never be happy with your riding a bike.

All you can really do is say that riding a bike is what you want to do and if that means moving out so be it.
Perhaps by forcing their hand it may soften their approach a bit.

As to padwaxk88 and 7 crashes in 6 months..... For gods sake mate get some decent training..... Karma
Something is seriously wrong if you are crashing that often.
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PostPosted: 18:54 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Park your bike somewhere else! Find a friend with a shed or garage, or find an ad (they are usually people renting space)...and keep them in the dark, and hope they don't find out.
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes it's worth taking a breather from something you're passionate about. Often people define themselves by what they are passionate about, and as a result they can not bare to do without it. Personally I don't like anything to have that kind of grip over my life.

I've been there and am glad I have not been riding for a few years.

If you can justify getting back on in a rational way then I don't see any reason why your parents come round to the idea. Approach the situation like an adult and your parents will treat you like one. (personally I don't think a dispute like this is good terms to be moving out of your parents house).

To add to which you've got your whole life to enjoy bikes, maybe it's worth respecting your parents wishes while's living under their roof.
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