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Feasty
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Removing car wing mirrors is harder than you think! Reply with quote

Last night I was heading home and came up to a roundabout with 2 lanes of stationary traffic on it. I filtered up to the front as usual and then attempted to slot in to the right hand lane behind the car at the front. I've done this 100's of times without fail, however on this occasion the bloke behind decided he wasn't going to let me in and went bumper to bumper to the car in front.
I was left to go round the roundabout alongside this bloke and as usually happens we all (both lanes) take the 2nd exit and then get into the left hand lane. Well I was blocking this guy out even though he attempted to come into my lane where I was - a big blast on the horn kept him clear and he raced ahead, overtaking the car in front of us.

Sadly, this is where I 1st went wrong...
I then raced after him thinking I'll just get in front of him and get him out of the way. Still on 2 lanes, he stays in the right lane so I move over to the left to undertake, he moves over blocking me, I move back to the right backing off realising this is getting a bit dangerous! He then moves back into the right lane in front of me and slams his brakes on, cue me slamming my brakes on and locking the rear wheel for a little while and coming within a foot of his bumer. Down comes the red mist, I'm thinking it's one thing to 'play' with each other but quite another to purposely try and knock someone of their bike!
Anyhow we are now approaching the next roundabout with queueing static traffic in both lanes. I start to head towards filtering past him only he moves over enough to block me again, rather than get blocked in I move over to the right again and as I thought he does the same. We then reach the stationary traffic and he slams his brakes on again, I do the same and this time have enough room to filter between the traffic, only 'just' missing the rear of his car.
My 2nd mistake was to then stop alongside him and attempt to remove his wing mirror, I was incensed he'd actually dared try and knock me off my bike!! I also blame BCF for this as I'd never of thought of trying to remove his wing mirror without hearing about this stuff from you lot Wink . I gave it a couple of hits but it didn't budge... He then turns towards me and pulls forwards, again trying to knock me off my bike. I manage to hold it with my left leg out and my right leg resting against his car before taking off around him and disappearing away on the next exit between the stationary traffic.
I'll be keeping an eye out for him tonight and for the next few nights, and if I see him I'm keeping well clear. Just not worth it! I just hope I left him as shaky and scared as I was! Embarassed



So anyway BCF, where did I go wrong. The wing mirror never moved and my hand hurts!? Laughing


(For legal purposes: I then woke up and found this all to be a dream anyway!)
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should have just put the boot in to the side of his door, nice couple of dents should make him think twice before fucking with a biker again Smile

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PostPosted: 08:50 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A big swing up or down should do it. But cars these days are getting stronger mirrors as they have motors and lights in them. On the plus side, if you do get one off...it's more expensive!
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never tried it myself but I guess they are designed to take a front impact so I would be inclined to force it fowards.

If it wasn't a dream of course.

It was all reactionary. Thoughts always change with hindsight.
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PostPosted: 08:52 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How were you hitting it?

A downward swipe is usally best, or a punch forward will smash most of the casing.
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PostPosted: 08:59 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the usual method is either a) at speed while passing, maybe using a raised boot if on an appropriate bike or b) in your imagination.
I suspect 90% of the recounts and 99.9% of the 'I would have done that's on BCF are the latter case Smile.
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which direction did you hit it? I think you need to hit it downwards. Thinking
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I 1st attempted a downwards 'thwack!' but that just glanced off, I then attempted a 2nd diagonal 'thwack!' downwards from front to back and that glanced off too. Considering the mirror did indeed have indicators and was electric, I'd imagine it was pretty heavy and well held in place.

I did consider the boot whilst riding past but could just visualise me catching it and sending me flying instead of the car!

On a more serious note I think next time I may just take down the reg plate and contact the police. Not that they'd probably do anything but I do have a friend of a friend in the force who might help. Wink
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Downward swipe should work pretty well I would have thought, I guess it all depends an the car.... You could have just folded it in, it's a bit of a pussy option but I'm sure it would have still got him pretty mad!

This is where you need an open face helmet, a nice big greenie on this windscreen would have done the job!
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I believe the usual method is either a) at speed while passing, maybe using a raised boot if on an appropriate bike


I'd always be worried of it not working and sending me flying off the bike Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAMSXR wrote:
.... You could have just folded it in, it's a bit of a pussy option but I'm sure it would have still got him pretty mad!


Doh! Of course! That would have worked brilliantly, can't believe I didn't think of that... Or pulling his windscreen wipers so they stuck upwards... I'm on a roll now! Laughing I hope I do bump into him again... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just pull up behind him and open his boot/rear passenger side door. That'll really piss him off. Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:34 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've only done one mirror, i usually just boot the doors and leave a nice dent. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is really weird isnt it, why would anyone want to start messing about with bikers when they are in a car?

They should just keep to racing each other if they have to and keep their games amongst themselves.

I do not understand why anyone in a car amongst traffic would want to try keep in front of a bike or stop it passing, it isnt as if we hold them up we just keep passing them and then speed off at the front.

It is a really strange attitude.

We pulled to the front of some traffic lights and then went off way ahead of the following cars but I noticed the car at the front of the queue a ford focus was breaking his neck to get past cars we were passing to try and catch us up, but we were just cruising taking in the scenery, they must think in their tiny little pea brains that were are always racing or something.

No-one does anything though, if the police had a camera on a bike that was unmarked they could video loads of terrible driving but it would probably be called entrapment or something.

I would forget the mirrors and crease their doors if you have to, but really you have to ask what sort of muppet would do that sort of thing in the first place, probably best avoiding he may have stolen the car and you are damaging the poor flamers property they stole it off.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke wrote:
You should have just put the boot in to the side of his door, nice couple of dents should make him think twice before fucking with a biker again Smile

Luke


+1.

Door skins are really thin. Even when stationary it is easy to put a size 13 A* dent in a door Thumbs Up .

(I dreamt it too).
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i find that you need abit of speed or just boot it off, if you have like boots with sharp clips on the outside scrape the door and boot the mirror off
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

*takes notes from this thread*

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PostPosted: 12:15 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

blindweezy wrote:
i find that you need abit of speed or just boot it off, if you have like boots with sharp clips on the outside scrape the door and boot the mirror off


You've never done this, have you?
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PostPosted: 12:30 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what I need! Twisted Evil


Might make my bike faster too!
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PostPosted: 12:39 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think you can pick up one of these guys from your local immigration office...
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damofo D.O.G. wrote:
blindweezy wrote:
i find that you need abit of speed or just boot it off, if you have like boots with sharp clips on the outside scrape the door and boot the mirror off


You've never done this, have you?


yep 2 side windows and 3 wing mirrors and counting =D
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PostPosted: 12:49 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another good one is if youve got a bike which dosnt have a front nose cone that sticks out further than the clipons, so if you have renthals, just clip the mirror with the edge of your bars making sure your not holding where your going to hit it, accidentally smashed a wingmirror glass filtering doing that Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

JAMSXR wrote:
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I think you can pick up one of these guys from your local immigration office...


thats is f*cking brilliant, that had me in stitches for ages Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do know your not supposed to get involved in shit like that because they get a dent and we die, having said that last week I did something totally studid and its not the only time Ive done it, a woman on the motorway ( two lane stretch ) wouldnt let me pass so I went between her and the cars on the inside, clipping a mirror at seventy could prove fatal and I wont do it again 'honest guv'
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 23 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol mirrors are difficult to remove, but side windows go with a lovely pop Wink

on my old ts50 some berk in a brand spanking new BMW 535i decided he would overtake on a tight road, as he was overtaking i 'accidentally' got shoved to the side by his car, bounced off the kerb and the handle bar went straing through the passengers window, needless to say he wasn't impressed with that or the scratches caused by the footpeg XD
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