The race card, defence for being an a**hole

[damz]

warning long rant:

is anyone else getting pissed off that if you get pissed off at someone who is being a total dickhead and then is accused of being racist? i admit that i do dislike pakistani's, not because of where there from or the religion they follow but because the majority of the ones i have contact with are utter assholes, if they were white they'd be assholes, if they were green they'd be assholes. it just so happens that many of these assholes are in the same group.

i'd say im very non racist, half irish girlfriend, German dad, english/indian stepmum, english brothers (im the only scottish one), my best friends are mexican, chinese and a ginger (i count it as a race, a horrible one). anyway i live in an area that is popular with asians, typicallly Pakistanis. the majority of my conflicts come from my work, pizza hut. We have a credit book, a book that is used when we issue out credit and write down complaints made by customers, unsurprisingly the majority are asian names and the complaints are pitiful such as pizza not cooked which is impossible as every pizza goes in a conveyor belt so get the same time or some other wacky idea such as glass/stones/wrong pizza's etc.


anyway tonight an asian lady phone up, i answer, take the order while she is also having a conversation with another person which was fairly rude in my opinion, she keeps changing her mind and asking for stuff which we do not sell. anyway the order finally completed with two large thin crust vegetable pizza's, wedges and nachos. i read back the order and she confirmed it.

i took the order to the house, gave them the meal, told them the price, was handed two handfuls of smash(change) which was impossible to count at the door so just said thank you and enjoy your meal (this is a common tactic as the driver usually cant be fucked standing about counting in the rain so you usually end up short changed) anyway i come back to find out the woman complained that the pizza's were not what she ordered and since i wasn't in the shop i wasn't able to counter her claim. seeing as i am also a manager in the shop the other manager sided with me and also since i am very clear on the phones as its usually me who has to handle drunks and general idiots. anyway they claimed one of the pizza's was meant to be a deep pan, which was incorrect as i clearly told them two large thin based. this is also a common tactic as they will save a whopping £1 by ordering the cheaper pizza then claiming they ordered the more expensive pizza.

anyway i take the replacement pizza and the woman wont even talk to me, she sends her ten year old son to sort it out which pissed me off, so i tell him its £1 to get the bigger pizza and he says his mum said not to pay me because i made a mistake. i simply told him that was incorrect and that if they want it they have to pay extra for it. they then claim that they were unsatisfied with the fact that their order was wrong and wanted it for free, i simply kept repeating that if they want the bigger pizza they have to pay extra to get what they did not order originally. eventually they give in and i get the £1 (so much bloody effort to try and save a quid ffs) anyway i get back to find out that the mother phoned up to complain about me being abusive to her son and making him cry and claimed that i wouldn't have been stubborn to any other customer (i.e i was stubborn because they had a darker skin pigmentation than myself) i was so pissed off and stricken their address off the system.

sadly this happens at least once every few days and it is really pissing me off.

i dont think chucking them out the country, beatings, genocide is the right thing to do, i simply think that they should not act like dickheads and try to get everything their way and as soon as someone tells them no they play the race card in the hopes that the person backs down and they get freebies.

i couldnt care less where they are from, what they preach, what they eat or who they believe in, if you act like an asshole i will treat you with utter contempt it just so happens that many of these people are from the same place and feel they are better than other people, had a wee bastard at college on my bike, sitting in a riding position with no feet on the ground and when i told him to get the fuck off it he simply says he wanted to see what it felt like being on a bike, i bet he wouldnt like it if i took a shit on his bed just to see what it felt like, didnt also help that a few mins before i heard one boasting how he drives a lexus with no insurance/tax and a borderline fake Pakistani license so was fairly pissed off already as my parents were almost killed by a dickhead doing the same thing. another aspect i hate is the fact they move in groups of 10+ had one trying to start a fight, i was by myself yet he felt the need to have 5 of his friends for back up, i simply think its dishonorable to start a fight, throw a punch, get a punch back and then get his friends to jump in. also i lived fairly close to the poor sod who was by himself got beaten up, bungled into a car, crap beaten out of him again then set on fire and left to die because he stood up to them in a prior clash.

of course they are not all the same, no group are all identical, i have good friends who are asian and they usually have the same opinion as myself but sadly its more than just a few that are giving them a bad rep, its quite a lot tbh yet they all feel they can get away with it by claiming that your being racist by responding to their shitty attitude towards others. so call me racist if you will but im going to go out on a limb and say that many here feel the same, some will admit it but many wont admit it but search your feelings, you know it to be true.

god that felt good, im off to get ice cream and torch some nazi zombies in cod.
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[Flip]

Ah, the old race card. Often played just before they're about to be punched.

"Cause I'm black init!"

"No, it's because you're a mouthy gob shite, who came here looking for trouble".

[Alexio]

Like my previous manager used to say:

"I'm not racist, I really do just hate everyone."

Racist accusations (the race card) is of course the final irony because this gives non-prejudice reasons to be offended by and angry with someone, which inevitably leads to a justifiable hate over a long period of time.

That said, I'm convinced that I've so far met nasty people of every race in equal proportions but it's always good to let the anger off of your chest once in a while well done for doing it mostly in a very constructive way.
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[Mister James]

Awwww diddums, did they smell of curry too? Was your lickle racist nose offended?

Thank goodness white people would never try and bluster a freebie out of a company

Gain extra fail points for sneaking in a Darth Vader quote and uttering the immortal 'I can't be a racist, my best friends is all darkies' pre-emptive defence.

Playing the race card for no reason is indeed reprehensible - but even your own rant states that it was only implied!

So yeah, I'm gonna call you racist, because nothing you've described has anything to do with the people's race, and everything to do with the fact they are trying to get a free lunch - something plenty of honkies try on every second of every day.

[Banned]

I got locked up once and ripped of 20 quid whilst the race card was played....

There is a proud of your country thread on BCF recently...

Soul destroying jobs should be packed in at all costs...

Nice rant btw....

[Banned]

Well they said i racially abused them and refused to pay the bill....

In fact i uttered not one racist word and was forced to pay 20 quid when my order was under a fiver....

So lying and getting someone arrested aswell as ripping you off could make you racist.

Im not racist but the only time persons have tried to mug me is by foreigners UK born or otherwise.

Some are more exposed to happenings than others and naturally there perception can be altered as a result...

blimey....

[damz]

[Mister James]

[Alexio]

Discounting the discussion of the race card being used against him for the moment, I think that what Damz was trying to say was pretty much what you've just said Mister James; assholes are assholes.

So what I got from it was that Damz simply wants to hate people for being assholes without any return accusations regarding prejudice motives as race is often just a consequential circumstance.

Please lets me civil. Please do not start an argument in this thread. Attempting to define and figure out if casual prejudice / racism is present in this thread is way too much effort at this time of night.
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[damz]

[Mister James]

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[CaNsA]

[panrider_uk]

[Ste]

With Britain becoming worse and worse by the day, I propose that we all seek asylum somewhere.

I suggest pakistan:

We could build a huge church in the middle of Islamabad that dominates the skyline, set up chippys and shops on every corner, assault the locals who dare to come into "our" part of town, set up specialist shops selling pork products and non-halal meat, protest to the government that the name "Ramadan" is offensive to our religion, and ask that they make it more inclusive by changing it to "Starve Yourself Festival."

[the grim reaper]

[The Shaggy D.A.]

[UnknownStuntm...]

It's all karma, innit.

When I order pizza, I order from the local pizza shop, not the multinational conglomerate who get the order wrong all the time and blatantly look glum if I don't chuck a tip at them for delivering said wrong pizza. My local pizza shop get the order right every time, are fast on the case, pretty much every time will bring me something I didn't order, on the house and they are nice blokes to deal with too. Oh, and they're about £4 less than the big old chain pizza shop.

We are talking about pizza, aren't we?

[thegubner]

[MarJay]

Damz,

Your post is cringeworthy, because you clearly want people to believe you aren't racist when its blatantly obvious that you are. As you say people can be arseholes and it doesn't matter what race they are from. However, if you truly believed that then there'd be no need to mention it would there?

The thread would have merely said "Arseholes: Woman tries to save a quid on a pizza by sending her ten year old son to do the talking."

Wow, big revelation.

I bet you there are a million white chavs who try the same thing every day.
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[Banned]

Im not racist but the only time persons have tried to mug me is by foreigners UK born or otherwise

James you read into things to much and pick at wordings and make assumptions.

Foreigners UK born or otherwise basically means i dont give a fuck what colour or creed they are !.

Had they been on a level playing field, ie not using the race card to rip me off and get me locked up for the night and fined for the privelege, or not been older black teenagers trying to nick my bike i was paying for then i would not of been commenting as such.

I don't tar people with the same brush as that would be short sighted and a inaccurate representation, but if ive been turned over by the non natives then i shall say so ! Just as we would say if we got turned over by anyone else in unfair circumstance.

Imigration control you work for, theres no such thing ! Its a joke and the foreigners have been pouring into the country taking jobs, housing and benifits and committing crime and working on the side, driving illegally etc etc ....and then you have a moan at us when we have a little bleat about bad experiences with the people you let in ffs.

Just because we live in a muticulteral country which is great we do have a right to view our opionions, some are right and some are wrong and most are debatable. I see all sides of arguments yet you seem to think implying racism to peoples comments when they have said their not racist is OK.

Its people like you who are killing the Red Squirel !! Stop letting the fuckers in and maybe someday we can expect a decent pizza service !!

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[Visitor Q]

It's very refreshing to be in South Africa is all I shall say on the matter.
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[JAMSXR]

I think allot of it has to do with culture and upbringing.

When I was in my early teens I was mugged a knife point on 3 different occasions, each time by a grope of black guys who were older then me by a fair few years. This led to me being quite the little racist in my teens, now thankfully I have got older and realized it's not all about skin color but the culture and community you grow up in.

There are however a fair few statistics out there which do people of different different racial groups no favors at all...

[Banned]

What do the grey squirrels do I wonder?

The grey squirrels are robbing bikes and playing the race card of course. They have free treehouses and a weekly nut deliverys courtesy of James employers !