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jay12329
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PostPosted: 15:39 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Sky Vs Virgin Vs BT Reply with quote

I'm soon to be moving house so will need to setup phone line, internet and TV pretty quickly.

At them moment I'm liking Sky+, £40quid a month for TV, 20mb unlimited internet and free evening and weekend phone calls. This includes phone line rental too.
But I've read some really bad reviews about the internet service, has this improved or is it sill really really bad?

For a similar virgin package with +box is £49.45 a month. I had virgin in my last place and the internet was so slow at peak times there was no point in even trying.

The BT package is about £44 but the TV seams that you are paying a lot for a freeview DVR box with no more channels. I don’t get it! My 'rents have BT internet have done for years and its fine 95% of the time.

So guys, advise experience and opinions please.

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PostPosted: 20:36 - 21 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have BT vision, I pay £0 per month, have a 80GB hard drive recorder thing. For £0 I get all the freeview TV channels.

If I choose to upgrade and pay something (no idea how much it is), I can then get "on demand" (through your broadband and all) TV. Think of it as a service like BBC iPlayer/4OD that you pay for. You just browse through the programs and select the ones you want. It's definatly the way forward for TV, but not charged for. You can also pay per view. but it's about a pound per view.

Oh, my opinion, it's free, so good value for money. Downside is you need BT broadband, which is bad value for money. Laughing
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PostPosted: 05:37 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Virgin will always get my vote, far superior to BT. I have a 20mb connection and at speed tests usually get between 16-20. The support is better than BT by miles and in about 2/3years it has only dropped twice called them up spoke to customer service at Virgin who told me it was due to maintaince and will be sorted in 45mins.

Where I am apparantly I can only get 2mb ADSL. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

We just moved to Virgin, have V+ Medium TV, 50mb cable, and 400mins any network/anytime phone included and we are paying £41 per month, can't complain really as speed tests are showing 49681kb/s d/l and 4281kb/s u/l
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to add, if I could have cabled Virgin, I'd go for it every time. Only problem is often one side of a road will have cable and the other side won't.

Wish Virgin would cable everywhere and make BT go bust Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:39 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perry wrote:
We just moved to Virgin, have V+ Medium TV, 50mb cable, and 400mins any network/anytime phone included and we are paying £41 per month, can't complain really as speed tests are showing 49681kb/s d/l and 4281kb/s u/l


How did you swing that? From the Virgin site:

What does 50Mb broadband let you do?
In a nutshell, you'll get a download speed of up to 50Mb, with an upload speed of up to 1.5Mb
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have had Sky Internet in 3 different addresses and found the speeds to be, in the words of my old head master, appalling.

The only time I get above 10% of the "up to 8mb" internet speed is on a Sunday afternoon. It's usually a 6-8hr window where I have to rape the internet connection to get my weeks worth of downloads. Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it that you have checked that you can get 20 meg at your new location..... Via the exchange.

Pop over to Quidco and have a look at what cash back you can get...
£95 for the whole BT vision package.
Can't quite work out what you get with Sky as its split package wise.
Virgin media is coming soon.

If you are thinking of Virgin, ask others in the street if they have it and how it is. As it can vary depending on how many heavy users there are in the area.

Personally i'm using 02 for adsl. Get a good solid service via them.
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got no complaints at all with sky. minimum i've had is 11mb broadband and unlike virgin they haven't restricted me at all. Virgin was good for about 30mins then throttled down to 2mb which was shit.
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 22 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: Sky Vs Virgin Vs BT Reply with quote

My virgin connection has always been speedy, including at peak times.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 27 Sep 2009    Post subject: Re: Sky Vs Virgin Vs BT Reply with quote

jay12329 wrote:
I'm soon to be moving house so will need to setup phone line, internet and TV pretty quickly.

At them moment I'm liking Sky+, £40quid a month for TV, 20mb unlimited internet and free evening and weekend phone calls. This includes phone line rental too.
But I've read some really bad reviews about the internet service, has this improved or is it sill really really bad?

For a similar virgin package with +box is £49.45 a month. I had virgin in my last place and the internet was so slow at peak times there was no point in even trying.

The BT package is about £44 but the TV seams that you are paying a lot for a freeview DVR box with no more channels. I don’t get it! My 'rents have BT internet have done for years and its fine 95% of the time.

So guys, advise experience and opinions please.

Ta
J


SKY and BT will be ADSL so your actual sync speed depends on how far you are from the exchange and the state of the copper, so there service is more of a up to 20Mbps

While as Virgin is a cable service so therefore you will usually get the full 20Mbps.

So I'd choose Virgin if you were going for an all in one package, just to add virgin have upgraded a lot of the network so all should be running fairly fast now.

For making it up in bits and peices I would choose Be Broadband, ADSL again BUT they don't have a super anal fair use policy that involves throttling etc. Although if you don't download that much you prob wouldnt notice the differece.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 27 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sky broadband. Possibly the worst broadband provider out there. My parents line can get 6mb after midnight, but between midday and then it seems to be permanently locked at 2mb and a shit ping.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 27 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have Virgin internet, its not bad, but its not the best.

Cheaper to get just the internet, no need for a phone line, I just use my mobile anyway.

Then get a chipped virgin box, all the channels, no monthly fee. Why pay?
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PostPosted: 08:21 - 28 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
Sky broadband. Possibly the worst broadband provider out there. My parents line can get 6mb after midnight, but between midday and then it seems to be permanently locked at 2mb and a shit ping.


Sounds like they are not on Sky LLU, but still on BT gear. Makes a lot of diffrence.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 28 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom_ wrote:

Then get a chipped virgin box, all the channels, no monthly fee. Why pay?


On the way out, have it on good authority that all the dodgy boxes will be no use by early next year. Well apart from just getting the standard channels.
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PostPosted: 17:41 - 28 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about eurovoxes and the like?

They've been shutting down chipped boxes for years and years, they say the same thing every year.
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PostPosted: 08:05 - 29 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom_ wrote:
What about eurovoxes and the like?

They've been shutting down chipped boxes for years and years, they say the same thing every year.


Apparently they are changing the encryption all together, cards have already been sent out to UPC customers in Ireland from what Ive been told and that the UPC network which was previously NTL is the same as the now Virgin Media network overhere.

No idea how it will affect all the different boxes, but yeah as you say its been said year after year they will be going off.
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PostPosted: 09:27 - 29 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant speak for virgin it dosnt work here.

Bt numourous probs with them, always on the phone. Stupid prices on bill most of which they couldnt explain why it was so high.Then taking bills out of my account twice in one month,. Disconnectng several times a day. Parents keep getting limited use messages and cant use more than one lap top at a time everything disconnects and slows down. I ended up getting over a years worth of money back off them once as my net was so bad and they wouldnt fix it even though they investigated.

Switched to sky last December and not a problem,. my nets fine. I have never rang them for any net prob. I know how much my bill is every month where as I was having heart failure at BTs which was always over £130! I get my tv,landline and phone out of I say £60 a month. And thats with calls in my bill. And I pay more as we dont get the free net or anything with our exchange.

I hate BT and am so glad I finially got away from them.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't be drawn in by the numbers. If all you are doing is 'browsing' then a 2mb connection is plenty. If you are 'gaming' you will need 5mb+. If you are going to become a torrent whore you need 20mb+

The numbers attached to internet connections are utter b%x created by marketing departments for people that must have the biggest, newest or fastest.

If I were getting a new ISP I would find the CHEAPEST that meets my needs, the fact that people buy 20mb and get 8mb says it all. The fact that your connection was unreliable at your old property is probably nothing to do with your ISP as in most cases your ISP does not own the lines or the equipment providing the service.
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