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Coxyzxr
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Banned from riding in first 2 years Reply with quote

What happens with regards to losing your license in the first two years of riding (Note I only hold a full motorcycle license)

I know if you get 6+ points in first 2 years you have to re-take but is that the same if they ban you for say 2 months?

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PostPosted: 14:36 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am probably wrong but i think it only applies to points so if you only get a ban you should be ok.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

During my first 2 years whilst on a restricted licence I got banned for 9 months and then again for 2 months. Both times I just had to reapply to get my card back so no need to retake test. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBH this is what I thought as well the problem is someone at work planted a seed and now I started worrying about it.

Confirms my initial throughts so puts my mind at ease somewhat. Thumbs Up
Thanks guys.
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It say below that your licence gets revoked if you get 6 or more points and it says you need to reapply for your licence and take your test again.

It doest say how long you have to wait before you can reapply though, so i would assume as long as a court didn't ban you, you could apply for your licence straight away but you would still have 6 points on it so you would get banned if you got even 1 point

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/NewlyQualifiedDrivers/DG_4022566
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no banning period for the 6 points thing. You need to take your test again.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm can someone clarifty.... kinda worried seeing this now, I have 6 points on my provisional from 31/10/06 and i passed my bike test on the 23/9/09.

I only have a year left on these points anyway... they won't stop me having my license will they? Embarassed

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PostPosted: 19:27 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

david_m213 wrote:
There is no banning period for the 6 points thing. You need to take your test again.


I agree with this, because I went through this.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 30 Sep 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
david_m213 wrote:
There is no banning period for the 6 points thing. You need to take your test again.


I agree with this, because I went through this.


This a friend did it, if you are restricted it doesn't restart that either.
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PostPosted: 08:38 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok...this all makes for confusing reading to me. And the links away that explain it do as well.

I knew there was a 'probationary' period so to speak when you first pass a test but have never had it explained properly to me.

I passed my car test over 20 years ago....received 3 points in 2004 for speeding. I have since received 3 more in 2007.
As far as I am aware the 2004 ones are no longer in effect. the 2007 ones are.
I passed my bike test 11 months ago.

I triggered a camera recently (in my car) and fortunatly was able to take a course rather than have points....thus keeping me at 3 active points on my licence.

How would this all work out for me? If I had received the points and had 6 on my licence...where would I stand? Does it matter if it is in the car or on the bike?

I find all of this very confusing and as per usual the 'official' reading of it serves to confuse me more than it advises me.

Am I literally 3 points from a complete ban from being on the road?.... or...what?

Any info would be much appreciated!

Cheers

Andy
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

it doesnt matter whether you get points on a bike or in car.

from what you have described it sounds like you have 3 active points on you licence as points for speeding come off after 4yrs so your no where near a ban.

also the new drivers act doesnt apply to you because you have a had a licence for 20yrs passing your bike test just added another catagory to it.

if for example you passed your car test jan 2009 and your bike test 2010 you would only have a year left of under the new drivers act.

hope this helps
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PostPosted: 10:10 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Esab wrote:
Ok...this all makes for confusing reading to me. And the links away that explain it do as well.

I knew there was a 'probationary' period so to speak when you first pass a test but have never had it explained properly to me.

I passed my car test over 20 years ago....received 3 points in 2004 for speeding. I have since received 3 more in 2007.
As far as I am aware the 2004 ones are no longer in effect. the 2007 ones are.
I passed my bike test 11 months ago.

I triggered a camera recently (in my car) and fortunatly was able to take a course rather than have points....thus keeping me at 3 active points on my licence.

How would this all work out for me? If I had received the points and had 6 on my licence...where would I stand? Does it matter if it is in the car or on the bike?

I find all of this very confusing and as per usual the 'official' reading of it serves to confuse me more than it advises me.

Am I literally 3 points from a complete ban from being on the road?.... or...what?

Any info would be much appreciated!

Cheers

Andy


Easy reply here is that only the 12-points-within-3-years rule applies to you, because you passed your first test more than 2 years ago.

Points stay on your license 4 years, they only count for totting-up for the first 3 years though. You can have up to 12 before you get banned for 6 months for totting-up.
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Esab
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Duhawkz and also Geri

Thanks both. Much appreciated and makes me feel a whole load better. Still ride/drive with utter caution due to the fact I pass 6 static cameras and often mobile ones on a daily basis.

You would think if you knew they were there you wouldnt worry but they still can catch you out...34 in a 30 at 5.14am on a summer morning for example...taking the gf to work....say no more. One very annoyed Andy.

At least I know where I stand a bit more now though...cheers guys


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PostPosted: 11:02 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

but the OP is asking what if he gets banned not what if he gets points

bans are not points, are they? (never been banned)

so imo if during the 24month period you got banned for 2 months you are still on probation but not required to re-take the test as you haven't earned the magic 6 points......unless a ban equates to a number of points?
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Coxyzxr
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

t121anf wrote:
but the OP is asking what if he gets banned not what if he gets points

bans are not points, are they? (never been banned)

so imo if during the 24month period you got banned for 2 months you are still on probation but not required to re-take the test as you haven't earned the magic 6 points......unless a ban equates to a number of points?


Yes what I thought as well.

As I understood and reason for my OP was that;
If in the first two years of passing your full bike test (not holding any other license) and you get banned(just banned, not banned via totting up of points) inside of that two years, do you have to re-take your license LIKE you would if you got the so call magic 6 points inside of that time.

To re-iterate, I did not get any points, only banned.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 01 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets get the two terms correctly put in, If you accumulate 6 points in the first two years your licence is revoked and you have to retake your test, but can do it straight away.


if you are caught being naughty and are banned, only after the ban has been completed can you reapply for your licence and you will have to take a test, usually the extended test.

If you have had a car licence for longer than two years and then have your bike licence for less than two years, if you get more than 6 points you will not have your licence revoked for either.

If you have your car and bike licence less than two years and tott up 6 points you will have both licences revoked, but you will only need to sit the test for one of the vehicles to get both vehicle licences back.
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PostPosted: 06:41 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't always have to re-take your test after a ban, only if the court specifies it. They can also sppecify other things like tests to see if you have a drink problem etc if you're banned for drink-driving.
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Coxyzxr
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
You don't always have to re-take your test after a ban, only if the court specifies it. They can also sppecify other things like tests to see if you have a drink problem etc if you're banned for drink-driving.


So nothing clear cut some still say you do some say you dont.
Only thing courts said was, banned two months and may have to reapply for license but nothing about re-test.
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PostPosted: 21:05 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coxyzxr wrote:

So nothing clear cut some still say you do some say you dont.
Only thing courts said was, banned two months and may have to reapply for license but nothing about re-test.


which means you just send off for it after 2 months and you get it back and off you go again without re doing your test
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

blindweezy wrote:
Coxyzxr wrote:

So nothing clear cut some still say you do some say you dont.
Only thing courts said was, banned two months and may have to reapply for license but nothing about re-test.


which means you just send off for it after 2 months and you get it back and off you go again without re doing your test


Which is what I believed also.
Lot of mis-information floating around which pushed me to ask the question in the first place.

Thank you.
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