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TUG
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 07 Oct 2009    Post subject: need help *sticky keys in game?* Reply with quote

Check out this screen shot, It says my CPU fan is running slow, and my fan on the case is running fast, but its not that, they're the other way round? Looks like who ever built my pc plugged them wrong.
Should i swap them round?
Also remote seems to be on fire, how can i work out what it is?
The reason i downloaded these 2 is i just played CS:CZ and when i left the server i was on, my pc restarted? Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 07 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reboot doesnt sound good, but could be as a result of anything overheating not just the CPU. Go into BIOS, or use some motherboard utility program to get some temperature readings. You should be able to look up online what a safe temp range is for your CPU and graphics card.

Keep in mind that its airflow thats important, which isn't exactly the same as fan speed. If for instance your case fan is tiny it will be spinning faster to move the same amout of air as a large CPU fan.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 07 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

My GPU is heat sinked, no fan to cool it off, my cpu is running at 48 degrees, and my case is open as im waiting for my new GPU to come in the post.
I'm guessing its a bogus temp as suggested on the everest site, its not changed since boot up.
It used to do this back in the day out of the blue, think its the GPU failing? it is mega old and i used to force CS:S on it alot.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 07 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Played CS for 5 mins and my CPU temp jumped to 57 from 48.
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PostPosted: 00:21 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

now my core hasnt hit 60 degrees c but i had my cpu fan on at like 75%, good or bad?
With that said i think its blowing air into the CPU heatsink rather than out, i'm a bit worried my pc hasnt been installed correctly now. i best take the fan off and try it the other way around tommorow and hopefully i will get my GC.
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

blowing in is correct i believe, and below 60c is fine, that cpu will go all day at 60c so aslong as it keeping the cpu cool it doesn't really matter what rpm the fan is doing, here what mine looks like.

also 700 doesn't sound dangerously slow, mines doing 900 on the slow setting.
https://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z170/serlant/everest.jpg


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PostPosted: 01:24 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blowing air into the CPU is normal, turning the fan around will make things worse. A temp reading of 60 degrees on the CPU when playing a game used to be fairly normal, though these days with finer circuitry i expect that is as a high as you would ever want to go. Does your cpu fan have different connectors on the end, or is it just the one? If it has multiple then these will have different fan speeds so its worth trying another.

A typical test would be to run a program like 3D Mark on loop for 20 minutes and see if the system is stable or not. Any crashes on this indicate an overheating issue either on the GPU or CPU. If it does this without problem the issue is likely to be one with compatibility with CS:S. in which case updating DirectX and your graphics drivers would be my first port of call
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

another thing is did you attemp to overclock it or not.
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PostPosted: 02:09 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

serlant wrote:
another thing is did you attemp to overclock it or not.

I havent clocked it yet, the fan running at 700rpm is my case fan... for some reason they are playing ooo thats not me kinda trick. case fan is cpu fan on everest and speedfan, and my cpu fan is showing up as fan 2. going to be interesting when i get my GC with its little fan, thought it should take some heat off my cpu? Or am i thinking wrong?
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PostPosted: 02:34 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

XlonewolfX wrote:
serlant wrote:
another thing is did you attemp to overclock it or not.

2. going to be interesting when i get my GC with its little fan, thought it should take some heat off my cpu? Or am i thinking wrong?


doubtful although not impossible, and for the fans showing reverse, they could have plugged the cpu fan into the fan1 connector and the case fan into the cpu fan connector, open the case up and follow the leads from each, if the case fan cable leads to a 3 pin connector labled cpu, theres the answer.
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PostPosted: 02:46 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Case is open already, cba putting it back while i wait for my GPU, When i first opened my case there was so much dust in the CPU heatsink am surprised its not fried, quite worried tbh, i really want to build my own pc at somepoint or buy a stupidly powerful gaming rig.
I'll check the plugs etc, the card i bought seems to draw fan power from the PCI-E slot anyway would prefair to power the fan from my 500w PSU but either way am sure it will get power.
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PostPosted: 03:05 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

which card did you order in the end?, also wouldn't worry about the cpu being fried, if it did damage the cpu would not work, they generally don't sort of work, its work or don't work, i've seen my gpu over the 100c mark a couple of times and it still works as well as the day i got it.
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PostPosted: 05:47 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The case being open won't help the fans cool things.. As it stops the proper air circulation.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

why is your CPU fan only running at 30% ?

Surely that will cause problems.....
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 08 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

CaNsA_temporary wrote:
why is your CPU fan only running at 30% ?

Surely that will cause problems.....

The case fan is running at 30% and the cpu fan is running at 65%+ and my case being open isnt doing anything as its blowing air into the heatsink and blasting it back out, the CPU hasnt seen 60 degrees C since i upped the speed, it used to hit 90 when my Nvidia drivers used to show operating temp.
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 09 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
Blowing air into the CPU is normal, turning the fan around will make things worse. A temp reading of 60 degrees on the CPU when playing a game used to be fairly normal, though these days with finer circuitry i expect that is as a high as you would ever want to go. Does your cpu fan have different connectors on the end, or is it just the one? If it has multiple then these will have different fan speeds so its worth trying another.

A typical test would be to run a program like 3D Mark on loop for 20 minutes and see if the system is stable or not. Any crashes on this indicate an overheating issue either on the GPU or CPU. If it does this without problem the issue is likely to be one with compatibility with CS:S. in which case updating DirectX and your graphics drivers would be my first port of call
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I'll try this later, its CS:CZ atm not tried S.
To carry on from several other threads, The pc is responding excellently to the upgrades, but on steam on exit game my PC restarted again, with a bit of research i found that theres a setting on windows to reset the pc on the smallest of errors, i unticked this box and will post up if it does it again.
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PostPosted: 03:12 - 10 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right, heres the new problem, cards running fine... i think, i played CS:CZ all day today near enough, but now, out of the blue i randomly lose control of my character, my usb mouse wont look when i tell it too or shoot, and my keyboard which is PS2 connected (the weird pin kind) wont responde either? sticky keys are disabled, but it keeps on doing it and i dont have a clue why. how can i find out? there must be a way?
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