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Blue_SV650S
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Maxxis supermax 120/65ZR17 and 150/70 R 17 Pilot Road Reply with quote

Managed to Womble a set of tyres whilst at Brands last weekend!! Thumbs Up

The front is a Maxxis Supermax 120/65 ... 65 is an odd profile ...

The rear is a 150/70 ... my bike is suppose to run a 160/60, but hey, that is close enough for me!! Thumbs Up


I have put the front on - its almost NEW (tread wise) Shocked

The rear has a mushroom repair in it, not bothered about that, but it was noted! ... It looks to have a fair few miles left in it and otherwise looks OK ... well apart for it being a sh1tchelin!! Very Happy


Why do people throw away perfectly usable tyres?!?! Thinking


Anyone used Supermax before?
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good little find. I've got rid of a set before they had been finished with because I just couldn't get on with them. i had lost all faith in them.
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PostPosted: 12:03 - 02 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skudd wrote:
Good little find. I've got rid of a set before they had been finished with because I just couldn't get on with them. i had lost all faith in them.


I think that must be the case with the Supermax - presumably someone didn't like it or ... more likely one of their 'mates' said they were sh1t .... Wink

So I did wonder what BCF people thought of Supermax?! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 03 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a pair of maxxis tyres waiting to be fitted to my bike, before i bought them i did a bit of googling and discovered that there are a lot of them in use for road riding and most people seem to be very pleased with them, M+P were doing them recently for £95 per pair..120 60 17...and 160 60 17, its got to be worth a wee gamble at that price Wink



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PostPosted: 18:07 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went for a ride on my bike yesterday (first time since fitting the supermax on the front Embarassed).

and now i know why it was ditched!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Shocked
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

shite then?
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

boundy wrote:
shite then?


At ~38mph it starts to gently shake the head of the bike ... the oscillation continues until about 50, where it starts to re-settle ... but by that time you have lost confidence that the tyre is going to hold you on the road in all conditions!!! Shocked


oh and it is deffo a sideways shake/weave, not an up and down/balance issue ....

I am going to lift the front up tomorrow and have a good look at the tyre to see if it looks egg or poppadom shaped....

after having a sanity check that it isn't dangerous looking, I'll prolly keep running it anyway, but if I had paid for that tyre, I would have take it back too!!! Wink
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with those maxxis tyres, I'm on my second set on the VFR.

That said, could be you got a dodgy one and that's why it's been slung out.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep I too think it was simply a faulty one .... just goes to show that not every womble is as good as it seems!! Embarassed

I'll check it over for faults (had a look initially to check it wasn't obviously damaged, but will have a closer inspection of 'trueness' now I have established it has issues when in motion.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 13 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a set of Maxxis Supermax 120/70 and 180/55 ready to go on my Bandit shortly. Cost me £99 the pair from The Fast One which is pretty damn cheap.
They've had brilliant reviews from guys in forums that have fitted them to Bandits & other bikes so i'm quietly confident about them.
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PostPosted: 08:41 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

i like my maxxis tyres do what i need for a great price

https://images46.fotki.com/v1517/photos/6/490096/7589746/IMG_1153-vi.jpg
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Maxxis supermax 120/65ZR17 and 150/70 R 17 Pilot Road Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:


The front is a Maxxis Supermax 120/65 ... 65 is an odd profile ...
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Is that not from recent ZX6R's?
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 14 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Maxxis supermax 120/65ZR17 and 150/70 R 17 Pilot Road Reply with quote

Mr Nice Guy wrote:
Blue_SV650S wrote:


The front is a Maxxis Supermax 120/65 ... 65 is an odd profile ...
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Is that not from recent ZX6R's?


No idea, only come across 60s and 70s in the past!
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 28 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got round to having a look at the Maxxis tyre, basically the tyres is 'buckled' (misshapen) and hence runs out of true, therefore resulting in the shaking at the bars!! Sad

It has obviously been manufactured incorrectly, but I can't see any obvious reason why it would suddenly 'fail' so I'll leave it on there until it annoys me enough to change it!! Smile

At least now we know why it was in the bin!! Wink
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 28 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Maxxis supermax 120/65ZR17 and 150/70 R 17 Pilot Road Reply with quote

I had a Maxiss front supermoto road 'intermediate' tyre - it was terrible if not treated with kid-gloves.
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 04 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitted the rear pilot road today - unlike the front, the rear seems to NOT be faulty and is behaving itself at the mo*!! Thumbs Up







*that said it is s***chelin, I am sure it will spit me off with no warning at some point!!! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:21 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally decided that I can't live with the wibbly wobbly Supermax on the front, so took it off and put an 020 I had on!! Thumbs Up


I've put the Supermax on eBay £30 BIN - 'Nearly new' as the description Cool ... hopefully some mug will buy it ..... Thinking


































This is a joke BTW ... I have taken it off, but placed it firmly in the bin where it belongs!!
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
This is a joke BTW ...

Phew, I was worried you were /really/ silly enough to have put an 020 on the front of your bike!

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PostPosted: 13:10 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blue_SV650S wrote:
Finally got round to having a look at the Maxxis tyre, basically the tyres is 'buckled' (misshapen) and hence runs out of true, therefore resulting in the shaking at the bars!! Sad

It has obviously been manufactured incorrectly, but I can't see any obvious reason why it would suddenly 'fail' so I'll leave it on there until it annoys me enough to change it!! Smile

At least now we know why it was in the bin!! Wink


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you will probably find its been in an accident or kerbed and hence the damage will be internal and that causes the bulge.

good reason for NOT buying part warns as you don't know there history.

personally i think this is not worth the risk on bikes Thumbs Down



whats the downer on the Michelin's all about then Confused

you will struggle to upset that pilot road tyre i can assure you as i had them on a zzr11 and they was superb period Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Blue_SV650S wrote:
This is a joke BTW ...

Phew, I was worried you were /really/ silly enough to have put an 020 on the front of your bike!

Wink


Hehe, a round 020 is a good tyre! .. much beter than a popadom Supermax!! Very Happy


zzr lon wrote:

hi
you will probably find its been in an accident or kerbed and hence the damage will be internal and that causes the bulge.

good reason for NOT buying part warns as you don't know there history.

personally i think this is not worth the risk on bikes Thumbs Down



whats the downer on the Michelin's all about then Confused

you will struggle to upset that pilot road tyre i can assure you as i had them on a zzr11 and they was superb period Thumbs Up


It might have been in an accident, but to damage a carcass without any external sign of stress/cutting - surely that is unlikely?? Thinking

I've had several tyre related crashes on Michellin when I used to race on them, so that is the main hatred. But with the knowledge of what they were like on track, I have noted the same characteristics have carried through on every road tyre of theirs I have used!! Razz

In summery, when they stick they stick like poo to a blanket, but when they go, they go, there is no in-between, they are also EXTREMELY heat sensitive. See my first point, if you can get them into their working temperature, the grip is second to none, you fall outside that window and they will spit you off at the drop of a hat, even when you have done say 3 laps and confident you are into that zone, you take the same corner as you took last time at the same pace and BANG you are on your arse just as if it was a cold tyre Thumbs Down ... to me that makes for a sh1te tyre ...
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had similar issues with Michellin race tyres and them having to be hot. Talked to another racer who said he found exactly the same with the road tyres, so have avoided since.
Lots of people like 2CTs, but I'm still a bit suspicious.
I would like to see a 'scientific' examination of hot and cold weather grip.

In the end, everyone has opinions, which are often based on 'feel'; while feel can be overcome, mechanical grip can not really.
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