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HARVS1789
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Remote Start and Alarm/Immobiliser Reply with quote

Partially as an added security measure but also just as a bit of a cool gadget/mod, what kind of things should I consider when thinking about purchasing a alarm/immobiliser with a remote engine start/stop feature?

I know this isn't exactly a 'necessary ' addition but I do need to let my bike run for a minute or two normally before riding especially in the winter and I like the idea of having a remote start as well as location method in a busy bike park.

There are plenty of £20 - £40 cheap versions on eBay which claim to fit any bike and require minimal meddling with wiring etc. are these worth going for in anyone's experience? Or does anyone know of a more professional alternative that doesn't cost about £250 from Datatool or similar?

I have a Kawasaki ZZR 600 and would want the alarm to be fitted just below the pillion seat ideally. What's out there for a reasonable price because so far after some Goggle searches cant find anything that bridges the price gap between the two extremes?

Any input would be great Smile Very Happy
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Remote Start and Alarm/Immobiliser Reply with quote

HARVS1789 wrote:


Any input would be great Smile Very Happy


Personally I can't see the point of paying for remote start, more hassle than they are worth and only thought to be cool by the person who has one. No one else would even notice. Just buy a decent alarm with the money you save from buying a rubbish gimmick.

Thats my input. Wink
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PostPosted: 15:25 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not worth the hassle. It was a good novelty for 3 weeks, then the alarm killed my Yuasa battery and did a good job of trying to fry my replacement varta. Mate checked the system out and there was an exceeding current draw rate coming from somewhere; combination of a duff relay in the circuit too. They're cheap if you want a rather simple/mediocre alarm (pressure activated) but for all other roles, get something from accumen for a non-thatcham alarm. The guys there are bloody helpful and have exemplary customer service (they upgraded my alarm when my old one was faulty).
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Remote Start and Alarm/Immobiliser Reply with quote

HARVS1789 wrote:


I know this isn't exactly a 'necessary ' addition but I do need to let my bike run for a minute or two normally before riding especially in the winter and I like the idea of having a remote start as well as location method in a busy bike park.
Very Happy

How big are the bike parks around your way Laughing

Anyway, if you really want to do it then go ahead. Its not my cup of tea, but I hate alarms anyway - especially if its cheap and nasty and badly installed.

If you want it for a little peace of mind then go for a budget model without the remote start for better value for money. I wouldnt think Datatool or the likes would make one with a remote start (and correct me if I'm wrong) as backk when they started making these for cars Thatcham wouldnt pass any models with the feature installed. I may be wrong though.

Good luck with whatever you choose!
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

To summarise....don't bother!

Doesn't sound like its worth the bother and cash.

Thanks anyway (Y)
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are some suggestions

https://www.acumen-electronics.co.uk/product/1020_Alarm_10149

I had the 1020 alarm fitted to the blade. Worked well but started malfunctioning in the 2nd week. I followed the installation according to the manual though since it's only 3 wires that you needw to put in!

That went duff so acumen replaced it FOC with a new

https://www.acumen-electronics.co.uk/product/CAT_3.1_Self_Fit_DIY_Alarm_10123

Top marks for their customer service. The alarm itself does what it says on the tin and has never let me down. It's just a good motion sensor alarm. It's not thatcham approved because it's very simple and lacks the features of £££ alarms. That said, it doesn't fire off everytime you try to fill up, and If you REALLY DON'T like it, then you can just unplug the power conenctor and job done, no rewiring mess.

Immobilisation on my bike is done through disk locks (at the minimum) and anchored chain whilst at home. Sorted innit!
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

HARVS1789 wrote:
To summarise....don't bother!

Doesn't sound like its worth the bother and cash.

Thanks anyway (Y)


Only you can decide that bud! I wouldnt say 'dont do it', if you want it then get it (Im a big fan of that!).

If you wanted an alarm for that extra bit of security then go right ahead Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:44 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mate of mine had one fitted to his bike...

Said mate mentioned it to another mate, who then picked the key fob up and said " How's that work then ? " then pressed the button...

Next thing you heard was ' Rev-Bang '...It'd been left in gear...

Result...Knackered garage door plus fucked headlight, indimacator and tank...

Laugh ?...I pissed myself...
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine you would have to bypass any switch (like my suzuki needs the clutch pulled in or it wont start) that would stop it starting, making sure you didnt bypass the sidestand switch which would stop it starting whilst in gear!
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive never parked my bike in gear before as ive never had the need, I make a habit of not parking on steep hills and if I absolutely have to I make sure I park with the camber, facing up hill so the bike is lent right over and all the weight is pulling away from the side stand not into it, so im not imagining the leaving in gear thing to be a problem.

Thanks for pointing it out tho Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 17 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what i've heard about some there not even worth the hassle of putting them in because it can stop the bike from working till you rip it out etc
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