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ryhardcastle
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PostPosted: 09:51 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Good guide to clutching it up? Reply with quote

Well I'm pretty new to the world of bikes and only passed my test 4 months ago. I'm now riding an SV650S and would like a few tips on clutching it up to trying and get the front wheel off the ground. I haven't really tried it yet as I'm unsure of how to do it properly and would probably mess it up and total my bike... The best I can do at the moment is a short power wheelie in first (for a second or two at best)

I know the SV isn't know as being the best stunt bike in the world and that long wheelies can starve the sump of oil but are there any decent guides out there?
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PostPosted: 10:05 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did a wheelie school in the summer (well... summer.. you know what I mean...) On bandit 600s. They were unmodified apart from the ignition cut things dangling off the back, to cut the bike out if you go too high.

The idea is fairly straightforward, really:
You ride steady at 5k in 1st.
Snap the throttle closed, pull the clutch in and stab the back brake.
Snap the throttle open to slightly more than you had it at.
BANG the clutch out.

Then you just practise, practise and practise. The instructor told us that if you're afraid of falling off you'll never master it. If you're worried about scratching your bike, you'll never master it. If you don't keep practising all the time, you'll never master it.

Needless to say I was shit. I could get it up, and on a couple of occasions I got a full on 2 foot high beauty. But on the whole I bollocksed it up. The ignition cut thing only came in once for me during the day, but one of the guys I was with was doing his best to loop it.
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I`m no wheely king but I do practice wheelies every now and again and have done a wheely school also.

If I were you I would abandon the idea of clutching it at all. If you are learning then its a sure fire way to ping you off the back and have a big SV landing on you! Laughing

Just keep practising off the throttle while covering your back brake the whole time. Sitting back on your seat a bit and following unknownStuntmans procedure but dont use the clutch. The power in an SV will get you wheelying without it (clutch) no probs. the When you are getting better wheelies in first, try going up the box.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

effit wrote:
I`m no wheely king but I do practice wheelies every now and again and have done a wheely school also.

If I were you I would abandon the idea of clutching it at all. If you are learning then its a sure fire way to ping you off the back and have a big SV landing on you! Laughing

Just keep practising off the throttle while covering your back brake the whole time. Sitting back on your seat a bit and following unknownStuntmans procedure but dont use the clutch. The power in an SV will get you wheelying without it (clutch) no probs. the When you are getting better wheelies in first, try going up the box.
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you may be able to get the front end up doing this but you will never wheelie. You've got to use the clutch to get it or by the time its up using the power the bike would of run out of steam and come straight back down.

I've also been to one of those wheelie schools, they won't teach you to wheelie in a day but they will give you an insight into the technique used and give you more bottle when you have a go on your own bike.

I've been trying on the wifes SV, which is a very easy bike to get up, only damage I've done is killed the fork seals. My conferdence took a knock recently when I flipped my CRM and face planted tarmac, but I got back up (after 5 miutes lying on the floor winded) and tryed again. I will master it, but it will take time.



If your scarred of falling off you will be shit
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effit
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you may be able to get the front end up doing this but you will never wheelie. You've got to use the clutch to get it or by the time its up using the power the bike would of run out of steam and come straight back down.


This is the way I have wheelied on all my old bikes and current one, including DR 650 (wheely machine Cool ), R1, bandit and now fireblade. So a vast array of different machines. Practising in first then working up the box eventually.
Also, the wheely school I went on taught on a 1200 bandit and he didnt teach the clutch method at all.

This will be interesting to see peoples methods used...
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boundy
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PostPosted: 11:32 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Power wheelies are gay, with the correct techneque you can wheelie any bike. Its not hard to get the front wheel up off the power on a 1200 bandit but you cant do that on a cbr 400 but you will with the clutch
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

its very easy, i did it loads on the GPZ500 and that's heavier and makes less power than a SV

Just sit at the lights, rev to, say, 5k rpm and drop the clutch. No wheelie? Try 6k rpm

The GPZ did it a beauty at 7krpm. I did loads and it got a bit silly in the end so I stopped. Blowing the front fork seals and having oil pissing all over the front brake disc isn't great either. This happens if you bring the front down too quickly.

Remember to cover the back brake. If it goes too high for you, a dab of the back brake will bring the front down.
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote a guide for wheelying an SV650.

Search for it, or go to the link from his profile.
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PostPosted: 19:17 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

boundy wrote:
Power wheelies are gay, with the correct techneque you can wheelie any bike. Its not hard to get the front wheel up off the power on a 1200 bandit but you cant do that on a cbr 400 but you will with the clutch


Power wheelies are the only proper type of wheelies, clutching is just attention whoring.

There's a few handy videos on Youtube with some tips.... if you really must.
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PostPosted: 19:26 - 19 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big_Ham wrote:
G wrote a guide for wheelying an SV650.

Search for it, or go to the link from his profile.

Indeed - I shall post here so you have an easy link, if you're really lazy Smile.
Think I do go on about clutching it up, forget how much, it was some time ago.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 20 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

at traffic lights I always rev it up a few seconds b4 the light turns amber with clutch on and then just let it go.

I've only had my bike for 3 weeks lol.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 20 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:

Power wheelies are the only proper type of wheelies, clutching is just attention whoring.

If it's not attention whoring, it's showing a lack of bike control Wink.
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Jayy
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 20 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting pretty good at wheeling now. I tend to go for a similar technique already posted but I pull the clutch in, give it 2 or 3 blips on the throttle and let the clutch out about half way as I'm pulling back on the throttle. Pops it up nicely and I can control if it needs more or less throttle and clutch.

I think the best I've managed is about 50ft or so. Too scared to try it in 2nd gear properly although I have clutched up 1 or 2 in second before.

I find just doing a straight clutch and rev is too scary for me and doesn't feel like I'm in control.
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 21 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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at traffic lights I always rev it up a few seconds b4 the light turns amber with clutch on and then just let it go.

I've only had my bike for 3 weeks lol.


I wondered how you stumbled upon your user name Mr. Green


As we are on the subject, whats the procedure for a 33bhp'd GS 500? Any chance in hell?
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PostPosted: 08:19 - 21 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much, the GS takes a fair bit of clutch-dumping as it is. Lots of revs and dumping of the clutch at slow speed. How ever, be very careful - if you get enough power down to lift it high enough to keep the front end from going straight back down, it'll probably be very easy to flip it too.
With wheelies to some degree it's best to start on a big bike, then work your way back down as you get better!
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 21 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

craigs23 wrote:
Power wheelies are the only proper type of wheelies, clutching is just attention whoring.

There's a few handy videos on Youtube with some tips.... if you really must.


What a load of pony...on my 10r its a peice of cake to wheelie on the power, just twist the grip,where-as to do some controlled wheelies with the clutch takes more skill.
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