What the bloody hell is that!

[rac3r]

Most will probably have seen this, It looks disgusting but the 'claimed' power to weight seems a bit mad!

https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/New-bikes/2009/October/oct1909-Vyrus-the-worlds-most-powerful-road-bike/
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[Martay]

I quite like it...
although...

wonder what the insurance is like on it
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[AngelGrinder]

I like it, but still, if the design is so good, why don't top level racers use it? The technologys been around for ages now, surely if it was better, we'd see it on the big race teams, and eventually the road.....

What aren't they telling us?
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There was an Elf GP race bike with this sort of suspension many years ago if I remember.
It may be that riders never get used to it, as they've grown up with 'normal' suspension, or it may be that having the bike tilt forward under braking can actually be useful for various reasons .
Buells and the Britten didn't seem to offer anything amazingly innovative I didn't think, certainly thing seen on a variety of other bikes.

[Jayy]

Love that comment below...

"Who in their right mind is going to ride/race this bike in eiuther sprints or endurance championships?. It will understear like a Ford Modeao with FAT ppl in it."

[Mystery]

i like it but i dont like the price tag with though another dream bike i think lol
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[chris-red]

I don't think Hub steered MotoGP productions bikes will be about as it is about development for future bikes and hub steering is too expensive for road bikes. If the Factory teers plunged £££££££ in to Hub steered MotoGP bikes the traditional forked road bikes would fall behind.
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As I say, it's been tried, didn't do amazingly. I think they went back to standard steering later, I'm sure wikipedia or similar will have details about it if you search:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/RayzrpBxibI/AAAAAAAAAIQ/g4qreRABM1A/s400/alt%2B-%2Belf%2Bhonda.jpg

[garth]

Looks cool though, like something out of bloodrunners.
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Is meant to work well, and the Elf bikes did fairly well . Problem is that although hub centre steering has some theoretical benefits, forks have half a centuries extra development which is a lot of work to catch up on.

One of the Tesis biggest plus points was being able to brake far harder and later. Braking didn't just compress the suspension first, so you still have suspension while on the brakes. However riders have got used to the front suspension compressing on the brakes, steepening the steering head angle and shortening the wheelbase so making the bike less stable and easier to tip into corners.

The down side of hub centre systems is that they require some kind of linkage, and with every link you have a tiny amount of play and lose some feel. Also for race use the Elf suffered from grounding out the front suspension arms.

One problem that Bimota gave themselves with the Tesi was that it was massively adjustable. You could completely screw up the handling with just a small amount of twiddling with the adjusters. Imagine forks where you could adjust the steering head angle in a few moments by a massive amount - people would rapidly land up with an ill handling mess. Worse is that few people understand the system well enough to set it up properly.

All the best

Keith
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My understanding of the Vyrus is that the front swinger is a different design to the Tesi with an additional curve to improve feel of the front end.

It still ranks as my favourite bike, even though I have never ridden one!

212 bhp seems excessive, given that the current one has 160bhp which is more than you will ever need.

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[BenR]

Looks like a tesi-2D with more carbon fibre on it.
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[nowhere.elysium]

I like it. There's something about the look of it that suggests that it's just overdesigned for the sheer hell of it, and that appeals to me.
I do find myself wondering if it's any good, though: I'd be concerned that having to wrestle that much power on a bike with a very unfamiliar frame type would bugger up the whole experience of riding it...
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