YBR 125 RIP

[palace15]

The RIP in this instance means Rust In Peace, 1st owner who I know had it for 465miles and always polished and looked after it, rust was forming on ehaust,front engine plate,a few fasteners but worst of all the frame, I purcashed the bike from my friend and said I would persue the warranty on it(transferable) and guess what? yamaha are saying that as a good will gesture they will only replace the exhaust andd front plate. So be warned, it appears that Yamaha UK do no like honouring warranty claims, so now its time for legal action. BTW the bike as only 861 miles on it now and as yet never seen rain, I dread to think what it will be like after a British winter. Yamaha say its misuse, this conclusion was made by office staff viewing digital pictures!!

[neil.]

Looks mostly like surface rust to me. Do you keep the bike outside all the time? Moisture is in the air, especially in those chilli mornings. It'll seep in and corrode things. This can be worse if the bike is under a tarp or non-breathable cover. Do you use anything like ACF50 at all to try and prevent corrosion? It's well worth doing, on any bike. Also, you can get some cheap malt vinegar, soak some rags in it, then wrap them around the rusty bits overnight to get rid of the rust.
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CBT February 2008 | A2 June 2008 | Yamaha YBR125 (written off) | Honda CBF125 (current)

[FerretFing]

Where has it been stored? A damp shed or garage maybe? Neil mentioned trapped moisture under non-breathable covers...this can apply also to condensation inside a garage/shed - I know from personal experience . A coating of ACf50 is your friend!

tbh I think Yamaha are being generous, that corrosion is because of how it`s been stored - good luck anyway

[wizzzard]

It's only a bit of rust. Stop looking at it and ride it
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[Ste]

[Feasty]

I hope you asked them to send you a plastic exhaust instead so it won't rust like the first one did!



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Previous: Aprilia Habana Retro 50cc (beauty), Yamaha SR125 (fell apart), Honda XR125 (nippy little commuter), Honda SLR650 (Geewhizz), Yamaha Diversion 900S (Smoooooth) written off courtesy of a stupid escaped horse.
(7 year gap), BMW F650 (Relaxing ride). Aprilia Caponord ETV1000 (Big and bold). Yamaha FZS600 (got me in trouble too quick!).
Current: Yamaha TDM 900 (Comfy, light but big, power when needed).

[palace15]

[wizzzard]

[Ste]

[Mark65]

Wow
My brothers isnt that bad and his sits outside in blackpool all the time, never been washed just covered in acf 50 from new and he treats his like shit, mine is 07 with 5400 miles and used every day in all weathers and in mint nick again coated in ac50, my bro has a tad of rust in the centre section in between the panels too which we cleaned and lubed, i wash and lube mine every weekend too. To be honest you could clean that up fairly easy but it is bad if its never seen rain. Over the weekend i took panels and seat off and used a brush to cover all metal with acf50 to protect everything.

Mark
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07 Yamaha YBR125, 07 Honda CG125 , 15 CBR300R (Chocolate Crank, Deaded), 16 CB500FA, 19 Honda Forza 300, 70 Suzuki SV650

[neil.]

Aye Mark,

My YBR gets it's 20k mile service on Saturday and I'm going to strip it down, including removing the tank, and will completely clean and cover the frame in ACF when I'm finished with the maintenance. That should see it through winter without having to clean anything apart from the essentials (lights/mirrors/number plate/chain etc).

Even though I've been using ACF50 for ages, I still get incredibly paranoid as the exhaust looks more and more crappy but then extremely relieved when it comes up gleaming after washing it off. The downpipe however is rusting a bit, but the exhaust is basically a consumable part.
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CBT February 2008 | A2 June 2008 | Yamaha YBR125 (written off) | Honda CBF125 (current)

[palace15]

[wizzzard]

In a just and fair world warranties would be honoured without a struggle but with the climate being as it is I don't think anyone's letting go of money that easily. Have you tried taking it into a yam dealer and showing them it so they can see how bad the rust is rather than someone at the office looking at the pictures?

A major problem with all goods these days is people want things as cheaply as possible and then we end up with bikes made of cheese rather than metal. Thanks to the disposable culture we have, stuff just isn't made like it used to be.

I've never heard another bad word about the ybr though so maybe you just got really unlucky with this one. How old is the bike?
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[palace15]

Hi, the bike is less than 2 years old, and I originally took it to a Yamaha dealer, he was suprised at the amount of rust considering the bikes overall condition, if it had been mistreated fair enough i'd have just got on with repainting the affected parts,but knowing the bikes history I feel this amount of rust as unacceptable. I have looked at other ybr's and although they too have rust, they have been nowhere near as bad as mine and the others have all had far greater mileages, this bike has more rust than my 28.000mile Xlr that spends 5 nights per week outside work. I have offered to take the bike by van to Yamaha UK or directly to their engineers to examine first hand.

[Mark65]

Was the bike previously ridden on gravl or country roads, i say that because most of the marks on the front look like stone chips, i made a fender extender myself to help protect the engine and frame and so the road muck wouldnt get thrown up my legs to my knees, and it works as just my feet and bottom of engine get shitty now.
i would pull the panels off and the back wheel ,wire brush ,treat and hammerite the rear and then problem solved.
When you by a car you cant take it back 2 years later and complain about stone chips, i think someone looked after the top and forgot to get on there knees and maintain the lower half, which is where washing your bike by hand comes in very handy as you can see problems arising and sort them quick.

Mark
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07 Yamaha YBR125, 07 Honda CG125 , 15 CBR300R (Chocolate Crank, Deaded), 16 CB500FA, 19 Honda Forza 300, 70 Suzuki SV650

[palace15]

used on what is called UK highways, for offroad I use a CRF230 Honda, never polished 3.5 yrs old only jet washed when mud covered and guess what? No rust. The reason this Yamaha is so bad is that its made in China and has no primer on the frame and very little paint. If we keep doing our own remedial work whilst these bikes are under warranty, the companies will not realise there is a problem and continue to churn out shite finished machines.

[wizzzard]

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[palace15]

[Ste]

The warranty is for anything which isn't normal wear and tear.

What do you want Yamaha to do to prevent the exhaust rusting?

[palace15]

Use decent metal and use primer on the frame, not too much to ask.......is it?

[Mark65]

I can see your point and if the bike has been garaged and not ridden in rain then i think yamaha should sort it ,especially with less than 1k on the clock, but i expected my bike not to be the greatest build as soon as "made in china" was seen. Overall it is well built but i still have to be vigilant after all if they built them really well they might not sell as many as they would be around forever, a la honda cg . The only thing that put me off he cg was the wire spoke wheels and no kickstart plus at the time my bike showed up as a trade in, the cg i was gonna buy was absolute mint and only a year old as the bloke who owned that passed his test too, but when i went to view it and start it it was a bugger to start in the cold even with choke, so i opted for my ybr which strts 1st time evry time. if yamaha dont want to know then sort the paint out yourself and when you pass your test take your money elsewhere when you get a bigger one as i will, if people do that they will soon take notice.

Mark
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07 Yamaha YBR125, 07 Honda CG125 , 15 CBR300R (Chocolate Crank, Deaded), 16 CB500FA, 19 Honda Forza 300, 70 Suzuki SV650

[palace15]

[Acemastr]

My YBR sits outside each day/night, no cover(never got round to getting one) and gets cleaned weekly, never seen ACF50, just WD40 on the bits that can rust, everything still shiny and nice.

To not buy a Yamaha because of this is ridiculous, I'd argue that it's been garaged, or it could have been garaged with a tumble dryer with no vent, that would rust anything and everything in sight.

The fact Yamaha are willing to replace parts because of rust amazes me, i'd be happy with that.
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2016 Toyota Tacoma Limited

[palace15]

Well it has been garaged along with other bikes all of its life, none of the bikes have lived with tumbledriers etc and none of the other bikes have rusted. Why is it ridiculous not to buy another Yamaha again? There are plenty of 'rust free' bikes on the market so I along with my friend will 'vote with our wallets' as simple as that. Yamaha know there is a problem, or why else would they offer an exhaust and front engine plate? they are just hoping I will accept that and run off like a good little boy, No, to replace or do something about the frame just not make economic sense to them.