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Robby
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Renting a room to a friend Reply with quote

I'm renting out my spare room to a friend of mine. I need to sort out a contract to stop her from taking me for everything I own. one of these days.

Anyone know where I can find an easy contract template? I understand I should also get a rent book to keep track of her payments, and I should declare the income in a self assessment tax return at the end of the financial year, although I'm told that it shouldn't cost me anything because of a threshold of around £5k. She's paying £350 a month, so only £4200 of rent per year.

So, contract template? A quick google wasn't particularly useful.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Renting a room to a friend Reply with quote

robby wrote:
I'm renting out my spare room to a friend of mine.


Soon to be ex friend then. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can she not pay you in Sexual acts, seems alot simpler Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Re: Renting a room to a friend Reply with quote

robby wrote:
I'm renting out my spare room to a friend of mine. I need to sort out a contract to stop her from taking me for everything I own. one of these days.

Anyone know where I can find an easy contract template? I understand I should also get a rent book to keep track of her payments, and I should declare the income in a self assessment tax return at the end of the financial year, although I'm told that it shouldn't cost me anything because of a threshold of around £5k. She's paying £350 a month, so only £4200 of rent per year.

So, contract template? A quick google wasn't particularly useful.


Pay a solicitor to do it. It won't cost much and it will be properly legal. I got a solicitor to knock up a similar legal contract and as I recall it didn't cost an arm and a leg. I seem to recall a figure of £20 but that was in addition to some other work and it still seems remarkably cheap so maybe my memory is flawed.

I'm getting old you know.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think i have seen something like this in WhSmiths, so have a look in there.

https://www.whsmith.co.uk/CatalogAndSearch/SearchWithinCategory-%5CStationery%5CLegal+%26+Accounting.html

there are some on this page.
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I rented out the flat above my old shop I don't recall getting any allowances. I'd have thought it would get taxed as income at whatever rate you're on.

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PostPosted: 16:04 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cash discount? Whistle
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PostPosted: 16:42 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes rent is an income therefore it's taxed, you have a 5k allowance on earnings before tax but that will all be taken care of in your PAYE at work. Maybe there is a rule about tax free rent in your own home, I've certainly never heard of it though.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought there was a certain amount of money you could take as rent before being taxed, or am I wrong?

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/TaxOnPropertyAndRentalIncome/DG_4017804
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke wrote:
Can she not pay you in Sexual acts, seems alot simpler Very Happy


She may be paying for the privilege of regular sexual acts along with the accomodation. Package deal.
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get some nudie photos of her (somehow) and use that as blackmail not to fuck you over.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hidden webcam in the room - set up a subscription service and profit Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlimRick wrote:
Hidden webcam in the room - set up a subscription service and profit Thumbs Up


Bordering on the edge of immorality,perversion,and serious jail time....but i like your style. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call it a security system with remote monitoring.
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the op...do you want me to type out my rental agreement so you can copy it.?

I wouldnt declare it if it`s a friend tbh.Whos going to know?
Just make sure she pays you cash and ask if she`s cool with the idea first then you dont drop yourself in the crapper later on.. Wink


Not a good start to a living arrangement though if you dont even trust her and she`s not even moved in yet.
Doesnt sound like much of a friend to me.


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PostPosted: 17:40 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlimRick wrote:
Call it a security system with remote monitoring.


Tell that to the magistrate when youre up in court and see if it works Confused
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
Yes rent is an income therefore it's taxed, you have a 5k allowance on earnings before tax but that will all be taken care of in your PAYE at work. Maybe there is a rule about tax free rent in your own home, I've certainly never heard of it though.


I'm pretty sure there is some rule that the first few k of rent, is tax free. I cant confirm its 5k or if its 3k, but I'm pretty sure its tax free, and not connected to other earnings.
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PostPosted: 17:49 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Children, children, of course I'm tapping that.

Thanks for link Mr Martin, that's the thing I was looking for.

I may take your advice on board Marje, would be easy.
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PostPosted: 17:53 - 23 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are thinking of paying a solicitor to draw something up for you, I'd suggest a pre made pack instead.

Its cheaper. Some solicitor has been consulted to make the legal documents, they are then just mass printed and boxed up and sold.

I think you can get them in stationery shops or similar as I've seen them.

google says there are web based versions

https://ezinearticles.com/?Downloading-Free-Tenancy-Agreements---A-Checklist-for-UK-Landlords-Wanting-Free-Tenancy-Agreements&id=741392
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PostPosted: 06:40 - 24 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

max power wrote:
I wouldnt declare it if it`s a friend tbh.Whos going to know?
Just make sure she pays you cash and ask if she`s cool with the idea first then you dont drop yourself in the crapper later on.. Wink


If things go belly up, then she could quite easily tell whoever about the payments.
At least if its all set out she can't start telling lie's.
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PostPosted: 06:57 - 24 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
max power wrote:
I wouldnt declare it if it`s a friend tbh.Whos going to know?
Just make sure she pays you cash and ask if she`s cool with the idea first then you dont drop yourself in the crapper later on.. Wink


If things go belly up, then she could quite easily tell whoever about the payments.
At least if its all set out she can't start telling lie's.


True.....cant dispute that.
I`d bury the bitch alive if she stitched me up like that though Very Happy
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 24 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
I'm pretty sure there is some rule that the first few k of rent, is tax free. I cant confirm its 5k or if its 3k, but I'm pretty sure its tax free, and not connected to other earnings.


I'm definately getting myself a Polish lodger then, no mortgage payments anymore.

As for whoever said they can't be a good friend if you want to do things officially and by the book, it's people who trust someone to be a good friend that usually end up getting screwed. People's primary concern is number one, and if your best friend is renting off you and is in a real situation they will screw you over if it means saving their backside, i've seen it so many times, if they don't want to do things officially and via contract then i'd be dubious about how trustworthy they are.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 24 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:

As for whoever said they can't be a good friend if you want to do things officially and by the book, it's people who trust someone to be a good friend that usually end up getting screwed.


Thumbs Up couldn't agree more Thumbs Up

A good friend will be much happier having everything done properly - besides it means there is one less thing to argue about. There's nothing that can destroy a friendship/relationship more quickly than financial disputes.
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 24 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend of mine rented a room to his girlfriend, and he found out that if he didn't have her sign a contract, or have a rent book for her, she could have taken him for half his stuff when she left as she would have been classed as his common-law-wife.

Fortunately, she was a decent girl (although it would have been funny Laughing ).
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 24 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double post

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