Drug adviser sacked for criticising government policies

[SoND]

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8334774.stm

[Albion]

Absolute joke.
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[Hetzer]

Non-expert fvcktards sacking an expert for offering his expert opinion on said fvcktards' fvcktardery.
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[Ste]

Well it does kind of make sense for him to longer be a government drugs adviser.

I mean, there's little point in paying an expect to do research if you're just going to ignore what they say.

[Clanger]

Definition of an expert: an ex is a has-been, and a spert is a drip under pressure.
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[Raffles]

Whilst I dislike most of the things that this government does and has done, I fully support their decision on this matter. If a paid employee shows such public disloyalty then there can be only one outcome. My only surprise is that it took them so long. He should have been given the push months ago.
Good riddance!
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[Vin]

[stinkwheel]

He should have refused to step down. Let them sack him, then taken them to a tribunal.
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[colin1]

I dont think he criticised government policies.

He merely stated his interpretation of scientific evidence on the use of recreational drugs. Maybe going public with his views was a bit disloyal. I think he got confused with what his responsibilities were.

As a scientist, your job is to formulate a picture of the world, and talk about it. As an advisor, your job is to communicate advise to specific people, not necessarily make that advice public.

As an advisor, he had stepped beyond the remit of his job.

Technically what he did was wrong, but I think with matters of importance, advisors should be able to go public with their advice if the government is ignoring it.
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[Skudd]

I watched a few of his interviews full expecting this sort of thing on BCF

What the guy was saying, and he did stress this, was that we had Lions and Tigers classed as more dangerous than hippos, More people are killed by hippos than lions and tigers. That is because more people are around Hippos and don't see them as dangerous, but some one will die from a hippo attack every day but no one on a given day will die from a lion/tiger attack. That does not mean that Lions and Tigers are ok, but that hippos lions and tigers should be put in the same threat rate.

What happens is, the druggies jump on it and say tigers/lions are safe lets give them to everyone, every house should have it's own roaming free in their back garden.
The anti everything will jump on it and say ban the hippo along with the lions and tigers.

The scientist says put it in context and make a policy to show the facts as he has interpreted them.
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[Vin]

[Hetzer]

He was sacked for having the temerity to bring the govt's disreputable drug policies into disrepute.

The govt have successfully made an issue of something that has no business being an issue at all, eg telling adult human beings what they can and cannot do with their bodies.

Here's the simple response, and one that all adults should state:

"Message to the govt...YOU don't get to tell ME what I can and cannot do with MY body, including what I CAN and CANNOT put into it. Take your illegal 'laws' on drugs and shove them up your fvcking arse, you breathtakingly arrogant FILTH."
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[Vin]

[Hetzer]

[Villers]

So by that same idea we could all be government advisors as long as when they say 'This is bad isnt it?' we reply 'Oh yes, very very bad'.

Just like when the Mrs asks 'Does my arse look fat in this?' you have to say 'Of course not petal' even if it looks like a couple of planets colliding in a pair of oversided Levi's.

Im not a drug taker, I am a drinker though. If someone was making decisions on my drinking habits I'd like them to be informed and experienced and backed up by facts from indiviuals who are in a position to do so. Not some monkey who just says 'That's bad mmmmmkay?' because he fears for his job!
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[oldpink]

couldn't agree more

every report on Drugs says Alcohol & ciggy's are worse than any illegal drug's
no one has ever died from using cannabis, I've smoked it for over 30 years
and I hold down a job, have a family, and no criminal record for anything
but as cannabis is illegal I am a criminal in the eyes of the government

in my eyes they are the criminal's and the recent expenses scam's exposure proved that

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[lostboy]

On the issue of use of cannabis I think for once the government may have got something right the different strains of cannabis are more potent now than they were say 20 years ago and the effects are more intense, another reason that the government may have also chosen to reclassify the class of cannabis could also be due to the number of people who seem to graduate from one drug to the next eg. cannabis to E's to heroin.
To be honest though as someone has stated if someone wishes to obtain illegal drugs they will, it seems the government could be pissing into the sun in an attempt to put it out on this one.
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[Robby]

If you stroll into a coffee shop in Amsterdam you can select from several difference versions and strengths of hash and weed. It's legal, so people don't feel the need to get as stoned as possible quickly.
I think if it was legalised you'd be able to get hold of mild hash here too. The problem is that strong green is seen as a more valuable product, so it is what we see imported and dealt.

You can see similar thing with the prohibition of alohol in the 20s in America. All alohol was outlawed, so the only stuff worth smuggling in was strong spirit. You could go to a speakeasy and get wrecked on whisky, but you couldn't buy a beer.

Don't talk about gateway drugs if you have no idea what you're talking about. Don't lump straightforward recreational class A's (ecstacy) in with stuff almost exclusively reserved for junkies (heroin, crack, meth).

[Hetzer]

Forget anything the govt says about drugs, every fvcking word from it's mouth is a bare-faced lie. The govt's bottom line is very simple:

"Mashed people don't work."
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