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Darth
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Insurance cancellation costs!!!! Reply with quote

WTF???!!!!!

Tried to get MCE to swap bikes on Saturday but they couldn't with out speaking to the underwriters- was going from TPFT to FC - said they would call back on Monday (which they didn't). Anyway - needed cover on new bike from Sunday so took out a new policy elsewhere and just called MCE to cancel my old policy today.

£89.89 to cancel! I nearly fucking choked! So i am basically paying the full policy despite only using 5 months. Are they allowed to do this?? Can i complain to anyone or do i just have to take it on the chin as i financed my policy over monthly payments?
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PostPosted: 09:45 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect it will be printed somewhere in small print so you have no leg to stand on. They are ridiculous though, all they have to do is press a few buttons on the computer and it costs 90 quid?!!!
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Insurance canellation costs!!!! Reply with quote

The reason it costs money despite it being a simple task is that insurance brokers and insurance companies are both businesses wanting to make money, they're not charities.

R32 wrote:
Are they allowed to do this?? Can i complain to anyone or do i just have to take it on the chin as i financed my policy over monthly payments?

It's quite standard that there is a charge when cancelling a policy, it'll all be in that policy terms and conditions paperwork that no one ever bothers to read but agree to anyway.

You could complain to the Financial Ombudsman Service but I doubt you'd get anywhere because you'd have agreed to the terms and conditions when taking the policy out.
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was expecting a cancellation fee - just not the remainder of the policy. I know it will have been stated somewhere but damned if i can see it! I am annoyed Evil or Very Mad

Ah well, lesson learned i suppose!
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

every company does it but 98 quid is steep mines is around 70 as well i think if i do cancel
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont cancle it then, keep it going and earn the ncb at the end of it
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I considered that but just wanted an end to it. Would have cost me over £130 in the end that way too so even more expensive.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

R32, you've been a member of BCF for a while now - have you never seen threads before about insurance cancellation costs!? Confused
I'm just suprised you didn't already know this could happen as there have been a fair amount of posts from members who have had similar experiences...
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Insurance canellation costs!!!! Reply with quote

R32 wrote:
WTF???!!!!!

Tried to get MCE to swap bikes on Saturday but they couldn't with out speaking to the underwriters- was going from TPFT to FC - said they would call back on Monday (which they didn't). Anyway - needed cover on new bike from Sunday so took out a new policy elsewhere and just called MCE to cancel my old policy today.

£89.89 to cancel!
Can i complain to anyone


Why did you not ring them again and ask, before setting up the new policy....

I would complain to the OFT If enough people complain they might make the ins co's their next target.

If the OFT think that a £30 charge by a bank for going over your limit and spending money that is not yours is unfair.....
I'm sure as hell that a £30 charge for a change of detail on a policy or a massive cancellation charge has to be unfair.

At the end of the day, you read the T/C, Well you ticked to say you did......
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PostPosted: 11:43 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had this explained to me once by an insurance company. Basically most insurers are brokers, they'll have already paid the underwriter so they have to charge you a certain amount or they'll lose out.

Fair enough IMHO.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Insurance canellation costs!!!! Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
I would complain to the OFT If enough people complain they might make the ins co's their next target.

If the OFT think that a £30 charge by a bank for going over your limit and spending money that is not yours is unfair.....
I'm sure as hell that a £30 charge for a change of detail on a policy or a massive cancellation charge has to be unfair.

At the end of the day, you read the T/C, Well you ticked to say you did......

The bank charges hassle ended up with credit card rates being increased and look at what Halifax are doing. Sure people got the charges refunded, then banks proceed to make their money back by applying different charges.

If insurance companies weren't allowed to charge a cancellation charge then all they'd do would be make premiums more expensive and/or find something else to charge for.

It's very short sighted getting types of charges banned as the charges just get rebranded and added somewhere else.

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PostPosted: 11:52 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been hit with "admin" charges myself before, but as Ste says, if you don't pay them it just ends up worse as they'll make the money elsewhere. ...
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PostPosted: 12:43 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Insurance canellation costs!!!! Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
If insurance companies weren't allowed to charge a cancellation charge then all they'd do would be make premiums more expensive and/or find something else to charge for.



But you don't have this problem with car/house insurance...... If i cancel my house or car ins i get a pro rata refund for period not used....

The problem with bike ins is that its nearly all through brokers who have to make money.
They use their commission to reduce the overall cost, but then load on charges such as these, for simple tasks.

I have no problem with charges as such, only that they should be fair.
Do you think that a simply change of address costs them £30 ???
Are you aware that Bennetts have a clause in their T/C that stats they can charge you £30 for RENEWING your policy.....
Never seen them charge it, but its there......

Years ago we never had these charges, but then there was more choice of companies supplying the underwriting and less brokers.
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PostPosted: 13:03 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had no qualms paying a cancellation fee, but a fair one! To continue my policy over the next 7 months would cost me £130ish but in those 7 months i was a liability which could potentially cost the company a huge amout of money in claims.

By taking myself out of the equation and therefore also any potential for loss to insurerers cost me £90. Cant see the logic.
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I have to say you are lucky! I payed for my NSR125 the deposit which was 200 quid(I said I have one year no claim bonus,which I should`ve received the letter from my other insurance company) than they asked for the letter,I never got the letter,I told them to change the policy to 0 years no claim bonus,I had to pay another 120 quid,been with them for 4 months,sold my bike,they took the montly payment in the day I canceled the policy which was 50 quid,they asked for another 25 quid to cancel the insurance so I lost arount 400 quid Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought when you paid monthly they take 2 months worth plus more as a deposit and let you have the last 2 months free and if you cancel, obviously you don't get it?
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well she did say that they were paying £44.79 so guess i should be thankful! My monthly premium was about £23.
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theoutsider wrote:
(I said I have one year no claim bonus,which I should`ve received the letter from my other insurance company) than they asked for the letter,I never got the letter,I told them to change the policy to 0 years no claim bonus


Why did you not chase the previous company for the letter.... Its just a std one they send out. But you do have to ask for it, as for some strange reason a renewall notice does not count as proof... Despite having the NCB shown.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cancelled my insurance with MCE. The outstanding money owed to the broker was paid off by MCE from the money I hadn't claimed on. Then there was the £35 cancelation fee. I wasn't that bothered about the fee because they originally wanted me to pay 150 for the rest of the insurance.

The next day I got a letter from a debt collector asking for £55.55. I was thinking how come in one day it's gone from £35 quid to MCE to £55.55 to a debt collector.

I rang MCE and they didn't care so I rang the debt collector who said they didn't want my £55.55 and they would just take me to court and he then hung up.

So I thought from then on I will have to do everything by email so theres a record of it.. So I started to write an email to MCE but by the end of it I was a bit pissed off and the email ended up stupid. The email when finished included a picture of my dog and it was just concieted.

I got an email back the next day saying on this occasion they will accept £30 to end it all. Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

I've gone off MCE they have given me nothing but abuse over the phone. They didn't have a set date for when the direct debit left my account so one month it was the 17th and the next the 30th.

One month there wasn't any money in because I had expected it to have been paid already. They sent a letter saying it will be taken out in 3 days. I rang up saying can you wait 5 days it would be financially better for me. The women then said no its coming out in 3 days whether you like it or not. So I said but I have no money till I get paid in 4 days. To which she replied well you obviously have other wise how do you afford to eat. Then asked me how much money I have in my pocket. They annoy me to funk.

I'm going to try somewhere else this time.
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 03 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

iooi wrote:
as for some strange reason a renewall notice does not count as proof... Despite having the NCB shown.


Didnt know that! I asked Bennets to send me proof of no claims for different policy tht just ended and they told me it was at the top of the renewal quote which leads into another insurance related story...


I thought that the renewal was a bit steep - had jumped from about £8.50 a month to £19.77 - but i didn't bother looking at the paperwork in any detail as i had no intention of renewing. Was only when i went to look for the proof of no claims i noticed that it stated 0 years NCB and they had applied a theft claim against me!!!

Bike was stolen back in March but i didn't claim and just fixed it up myself. Was told i would still need to fill in a claim form and send it back but to just write 'For notification purposes only' on the form - which i did in the biggest capital letters i could manage on all 3 sheets, front and back! Apparently that wasn't good enough for them.

Anyway - phoned Bennets back up in a rage on Saturday and got through to a nice sounding young girl who apologised and promised to call me back on Monday morning. I was fully expecting to have lots of headches but she stuck to her word and called me back at about 9.15 on Monday, all sorted, proving that they aint all bad! Smile

Anyway - must call them back up and ask for a proper letter stating my NCB. Cheers iooi! Thumbs Up Karma
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 04 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you go for the cheapest quote this happens.

TJust renewed my Courier insurance with the usual company, they removed the ER-5 I no longer have which only saved £2 so they argued with the insurance company on my behalf and got me free protected no claims and some other money off. Cheapest is not best when it comes to service.
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PostPosted: 07:13 - 04 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Insurance cancellation costs!!!! Reply with quote

R32 wrote:
£89.89 to cancel! I nearly fucking choked!

I would guess that £89.89 isn't the cancellation fee as such, I would think that it is more likely to be worked out from the cost of

The remaining 7 months monthly payments that you owe plus the cancellation fee minus the rebate of what you are entitled back from ending a policy early.

Hence that is probably how they work it out to be £89.89 The actual cancellation fee is probably only about £35. When you take an insurance policy out, you have a contract for x amount and 12 months. Very rarely can you get out of it unscathed if you want to cancel that agreement. On reflection you may have been better waiting for MCE to ring you back and make an adjustment to your current policy that cancelling and changing mid-term.
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PostPosted: 07:16 - 04 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insurance companies are the very spawn of Satan's foetid testicles Evil or Very Mad I've never made a claim or had a claim made against me in 24 years on the road and the thieving pile of steaming excrement at Norwich Union still see fit to increase my premium every year Shocked
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PostPosted: 08:18 - 04 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bennets did this to me and the new policy was with them too but on changing bikes it had to be with a different insurer.
Only they didn't tell me that would happen, just sent a bill.
Had the most appalling blazing row with them I ever had on the phone about it.
Didn't help that the first communication I had about the charge was laced with threats of court action if not paid within days.
Clearly they are used to disputes about this charge.
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