Ducati Desmo vs. Ferrari 430

[Keen]

"Car v bike: which is fastest? It’s the age-old debate, argued in pubs, on internet forums, among friends, in magazines and on TV. To prove two wheels are better than four forever, we’re pitching arguably the best road bike in the world against one of the best road cars, in perfect conditions at the Almeria circuit in Spain."

Video teaser: Ducati Desmo vs. Ferrari 430
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[metalangel]

Buy MCN next week to find out what happens?

Nah.
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[ryhardcastle]

Oh I wonder what the write-up will say....

Bike disappearing on the straights and the car catching up under braking and cornering? Or maybe they will tell us something we don't already know?

[UnknownStuntm...]

hmmm....
https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/spideyspam.jpg

[G]

They should have given it some /real/ competition :
hhttps://www.ultimasports.co.uk/Content.aspx?f=record10

[Im-a-Ridah]

[pits]

Something like this then
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Man0X0bf8vk

[Mystery]

i wouldn't exactly say that the f430 is the best car in the world but it should be interesting none the less
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[The Shaggy D.A.]

I'm unlikely to buy either, nor am I likely to drive or ride in perfect conditions at the Almeria circuit. Just expensive toy willy waving.
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[damz]

shouldnt they compare the vehicles by price? that ducati probobly costs around the same as a brand new M5 or other sports saloon.
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[G]

[WishayKillie]

^^^

I'm sure 5th gear put a Radical up against a GSXR1000 and the radical whipped it by about 3 seconds round the track.
Any car like a Caterham7, Radical etc, is gonna blow any road bike (and Ferrari, Lambo, Aston for that matter) away round a tranck just with there sheer cornering speed.


Plus I think it has been proven that the 1098R is a much better bike than the Desmo round a track. So to say the Desmo is the best bike in the world doesnt ring quite true.
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[craigs23]

[G]

Fifth gear did, well it was a Westfield XTR which isn't too far off. The bike was show-boating when he could have been going fast (wheelies, rear wheel steering etc.) However, they were very fair about the result, saying the car was less practical, etc, if I remember.
Seems it was 1.1 seconds faster.

Incidentally, that car is for sale I think, but with some extra aeros and a 350hp engine - think it was £25k.

The SR8LM or Ultima GTR are the 'ones to beat'.
The Ultima holds the 'unofficial' 'Top Gear lap time' (1:12.8 on road tyres) and the SR8LM the official Nurburgring time (6:48).

[Smooth]

The way I see it:

which is more fun?

a) 1500 quid bike
b) 1500 quid car


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[G]

Can get plenty of four wheeled fun for £1500.
I'd probably go for a MX5 with some track tweaks and maybe spare wheels already. Consider welding the diff.
A 3 series BMW, or if I didn't want to include drifting in my playing, MR2s, as well well as plenty of light weight front wheel drive toys.
If you view a car as a toy rather than a shopping cart, it's quite possible to find one you can have fun in.
Though, which is a big thing for the track work too, the narrow width of a bike is perhaps one of it's biggest advantages. You can get past other vehicles on the road and on the track it means you can straighten out a lot of the corners.

[Smooth]

I knew someone would say something like that.

Yes, old hot hatches and MX5s can be bought fairly cheap, (although demand seems to have increased) but they'll often quite worn out and you'll probably also end up having to do a lot of on-going maintenance on the car.

In my case I've nowhere to keep or work on a "fun car", but I've enough space for a bike.

A bike is much more use-able for the chap who can't afford to do track days.

A Win for the bike
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[G]

A lot of £1500 'fun' bikes also need a reasonable bit of on going work etc and many (not me) much prefer a car for daily use. Even though I do fine on bikes alone too, it's still nice/convenient to have something a bit bigger to do a decent sized shop, pickup parcels or people easily.

[Smooth]

[G]

Because if you could afford two vehicles, your budget for one could also be higher .
I drive either a LWB diesel van or a BMW M3 when I want to carry things. Either can be quite fun in the right circumstances, actually and sadly neither is worth that much.

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[daemonoid]

[Acemastr]

That was so disappointing.........
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