tax penalties?

[MaybeGuy]

what are the bads that can happen when caught without tax?

i bought my KTM a few months ago with a missing tax disk, was assured it was taxed, checked on the DVLA website, it showed as licenced, and thought nothing more of it...

the MOT runs out in december, so i had it set in my head that the tax must expire after the MOT seeing as you cant get 6 months for a 400cc.

so today, i get collared by MOD police for failure to display a tax disk. They said they're going to send a P28 or some form off to the DVLA.

if the form comes back as taxed, im in the clear, if it doesnt, i have to go to court apparantly.

i was stopped at 12:00pm, and the bike was taxed by 2pm...

I'm off to truro at the weekend to backpay the outstanding tax.

if it comes back as me not having tax (which it probably will, as after checking, it expired on september 1st) what is likely to happen if i've since taxed the vehicle and repaid all outstanding tax?

completely my fault for not double checking i know, but meh, things happen.
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[Mystery]

dunno what will happen but you might get like a 60 quid fine and i don't think you will get points for failing to tax a bike (don't quote me though)
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[truslack]

Why did the MOD police pull you? I thought they rarely got involved with civvy matters?
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[waffles]

According to the DVLA website

[MaybeGuy]

[Devils Advocate]

Worst scenario= no tax,so no insurance,your vehicle gets crushed,and you have to contribute a grand to help with the costs of the coppers xmas party.

[MaybeGuy]

[Devils Advocate]

[cyclops12]

Cant remember where i see it but from the 11th of November police officers will have the power to sieze vehicles with out of date Vehicle Excise Licences and crush them
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[MaybeGuy]

[cyclops12]

Yes before that date they could only report you for no tax as it was a civil matter
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[Blue_SV650S]

Not having tax and not displaying a valid tax disk are BOTH offenses (separate offenses, but still BOTH offenses).

It matters none even if the bike was physically taxed (your doubly fecked as it wasn't), if you are not displaying it, they can fine you ... bang-to-rights.

I'll give them a ring in the morning and make sure they know this - that way they can cane you for it!
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[MaybeGuy]

[Blue_SV650S]

[MaybeGuy]

i was told that if it comes back as taxed, i wouldnt hear any more about it, but if it doesnt, then chances are i'll go to court.

TBH i'm expecting a court summons, hence trying to lick arse straight after realising my error.

im also hoping that the DVLA send the form back saying ''it was taxed on that day, kthxbai'' and that will be that.

i didnt sign anything, so does that count for anything?
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[Blue_SV650S]

[Mystery]

[MaybeGuy]

ive had the bike for about 2 months, which is probably why the reminder didnt come to me.

pretty shocking really, because all this time it hasnt had a tax disk, and i havnt been collared for it before. rode it back from bristol and commuted daily as well as riding it in my spare time. racked up about 2000 miles.

i even got pulled over for wheelieing, and they ran the plate through... nothing! even though it cant have had tax if it expired 1st sept.

its weird. oh well, ill take it as it comes.
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!!
Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

[stinkwheel]

The DVLA can seize untaxed vehicles there and then and they can be crushed if you don't come and pick them up within a week showing tax and paying a release fee.

I'm pretty certain there is nothing in law that gives either the police or the DVLA the power to enter private propoerty and seize a vehicle without a court order. The power to seize a vehicle only applies to vehicles on the road.

They could take you to court where you could be fined UP TO £1000 (which a seriously doubt they will for a matter of a £45 tax disc expired for a couple of months), they'll probably send you an option of a fixed penalty notice.

In all probability, nothing wil happen, the DVLA aren't very well organised. I think they would have to issue an NIP within 14 days like with other motoring offences (it sounds like they didn't give you a verbal one because they didn't know if you were taxed or not).

I get reported to the DVLA fdor failure to display a tax disc about once a fortnight (gives my local PCSO something to do with his time, he does seem to enjoy sticking things to my windscreen.. bless his little cotton socks). Nothing ever comes of it.

Government agencies are fond of quoting the maximum penalty in their propoganda. At the end of the day, it is up to the magistrate. You could be fined up to £1,000, get six points and a ban for doing 35 in a 30 limit. Doesn't mean this is what actually happens.

[Pete.]

[MaybeGuy]

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[Robert2014]

u will get a Fine For £60 no point's
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