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cheets650
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 11 Nov 2009    Post subject: Rear Brake Caliper Help Reply with quote

Hi,

I ride a 2001 sv650 and last week the rear brake was not binding - on closer inspection it seems the pistons had pushed through the brake shoes and the brake discs had started to sheer down the pistons.

I'm not a mechanic by any means but do like to tinker Very Happy - so (with the help of the search function on BCF) I thought I'd give a caliper overhaul a go.

Ordered some new pistons and seals and new banjo bolt washers - and went to work - two days later and now all back on the bike and working great apart from the rear being slighty spongy - I have beld twice now and left the rear brake pushed down overnight - still no joy.

Anyone any ideas?
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Itchy
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PostPosted: 19:18 - 11 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How is your bleeding technique?.

I usually on the brakes, pump 5-6 times then undo the banjo bolt (which has a tube submerged in a fairly deep cup of brake fluid.

you can also give the caliper a shake.
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Thom
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 11 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

tap the whole thing with the handle of a screw driver or similar, i often find this knocks the last few bubbles loose.

Furthurmore it may just be rubber hoses and youve not realised how bad they are!
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PostPosted: 01:38 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Rear Brake Caliper Help Reply with quote

jcheetham123 wrote:
Hi,

I ride a 2001 sv650 and last week the rear brake was not binding - on closer inspection it seems the pistons had pushed through the brake shoes and the brake discs had started to sheer down the pistons.



The brake rotor was scrubbing down the pistons?? The pistons made a hole in the pads?

I'm not sure how this would happen IRL. Please get a few pics up as this would be very interesting to see.

I would worry about your disc! My friend didn't change his pads and took them down to them metal and needed to get a new rear disc. I can't imagine the state of affairs if the pistons were being scrubbed!
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PostPosted: 04:45 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seriously, how the fuck did you manage to do that without noticing? Laughing
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PostPosted: 06:26 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Rear Brake Caliper Help Reply with quote

jcheetham123 wrote:
Hi,
great apart from the rear being slighty spongy - I have beld twice now and left the rear brake pushed down overnight - still no joy.

Anyone any ideas?


Your disk will have some nice groves in it where the pistons have chewed it up.
So your nice new FLAT pad will not be pressing on very much metal on the disk.
Untill the pad shape matches the disk it will not work very well.
Hence it being very spongy....

Might be worth investing in a new disk...... And another set of pads...
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cheets650
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks all - was going to take a photo of the piston but didn't think anyone would be interested so they went in the bin.

Got new pads and have ordered a new brake disc to fit next week - will try and bleed again and give the caliper a knock or two aswell (after I've fitted the new brake disc)

Thanks for all the response
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smegballs
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PostPosted: 13:54 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you mean you ate through the pad material, the backing plate and then into the piston!!

I think you are lucky you didn't have an accident!

Still you will hopefully learn this time and make sure to check the state of ones brakes.
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PostPosted: 14:09 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I assume the SV uses the standard nightmare Suzuki quick seize calipers.

If so have you been bleeding the caliper using both bleed nippes or just 1? If only one then there will be a load of air trapped on the other side of the caliper.

All the best

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