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PostPosted: 21:24 - 11 Nov 2009    Post subject: Distilling Alcohol Reply with quote

Would it be considered alky tax evasion to distill say cheapo vodka to produce a stronger beverage?

The vodka you buy has obviously had the UK duty paid on it so that "amount" of alcohol has been tax paid.

The distilling would obviously not magic up alcohol from nowhere, it would just concentrate it. :. the strong resultant alcohol you have is still covered from a tax point of view?
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 11 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just chuck it in the freezer .... its got to be ok legally, I was doing that in the 70's Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 11 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doing that will help concentrate the alcohol but you will not separate all of it from the water ice slush so you will loose some of your duty paid booze.
Why not just go the Irish route and produce your own potch?
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 11 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Distilling Alcohol Reply with quote

Bittern wrote:
Would it be considered alky tax evasion to distill say cheapo vodka to produce a stronger beverage?

The vodka you buy has obviously had the UK duty paid on it so that "amount" of alcohol has been tax paid.

The distilling would obviously not magic up alcohol from nowhere, it would just concentrate it. :. the strong resultant alcohol you have is still covered from a tax point of view?


Would it not just make more sense to buy the stronger alcohol?
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Distilling Alcohol Reply with quote

ms51ves3 wrote:


Would it not just make more sense to buy the stronger alcohol?


Please show me where to get 85%+ percentage! If you me some Everclear like they have stateside the Karma to you!

Earlier on I BCF showed me the wonders of Pure Polish Spirit at about 80%. I only need small amount say 50ml at a time.
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PostPosted: 01:33 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Re: Distilling Alcohol Reply with quote

Bittern wrote:
ms51ves3 wrote:


Would it not just make more sense to buy the stronger alcohol?


Please show me where to get 85%+ percentage! If you me some Everclear like they have stateside the Karma to you!

Earlier on I BCF showed me the wonders of Pure Polish Spirit at about 80%. I only need small amount say 50ml at a time.


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PostPosted: 07:52 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you using the stuff for? If you consider that you need booze stronger than that available to a Moscow alcoholic you have a problem.
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PostPosted: 09:46 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

why on earth do you want it stronger? , in russia I encountered rocket fuel, yer supposed to mix it with water and concentrated vodka saves on transport costs but people drink that stuff neat.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You still trying to make tinctures? Or do you have some other reason for wanting it so strong?

EDIT: Anything over 40%abv won't freeze in a normal freezer, it just goes thick.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 12 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive got a bottle of 90% sat next to me right now... Pm me if you want info. - u can buy it off the net..

Bear in mind, its not really drinkable, it kinda disolves when it touches your mouth!!
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can "brew" as much alcoholic drink as you want in the UK, but it is illegal to distill liquor without a special licence from the government. It's also illegal to sell anything you've brewed/distilled at home.

That said, most homebrew shops (and websites) sell "water" distillers that also distill liquor, should some unscrupulous person decide to do such a thing.

I do a lot of home brewing (wine and beer), but given the cost of "water" distillers, I'd rather just buy spirits etc from the shops!

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PostPosted: 12:28 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not just buy 100% ethanol and dilute it down?

I'm not sure how you go about getting this in the public domain, but it's fairly easy and abundant stuff to half inch from a laboratory lol.
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PostPosted: 14:12 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

SavageKymco wrote:
Why not just buy 100% ethanol and dilute it down?

I'm not sure how you go about getting this in the public domain, but it's fairly easy and abundant stuff to half inch from a laboratory lol.


You'd struggle to find 100% ethanol in a lab, ethanol azeotropes at around 95-96%. Whilst it is possible to get 100% it's expensive and you need a licence, even so it might contain benzene depending on how it was purified to remove the last 4-5% of water.

Most 95% ethanol is denatured, thus shite like methanol is added to it to stop people from doing exactly what you are suggesting. If you enjoy being blind then it's ok, otherwise I'd advise against it.

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PostPosted: 18:32 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing wrong with methanol, My bike drinks it by the gallon.
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PostPosted: 19:16 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:


You'd struggle to find 100% ethanol in a lab, ethanol azeotropes at around 95-96%. Whilst it is possible to get 100% it's expensive and you need a licence, even so it might contain benzene depending on how it was purified to remove the last 4-5% of water.



One of the labs where I used to work had 100% ethanol and once a year they would have a cocktail night in the lab and make crazy drinks up with liquid nitrogen and dry ice etc.
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PostPosted: 23:43 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Major_Grooves wrote:
GhostRider wrote:


You'd struggle to find 100% ethanol in a lab, ethanol azeotropes at around 95-96%. Whilst it is possible to get 100% it's expensive and you need a licence, even so it might contain benzene depending on how it was purified to remove the last 4-5% of water.



One of the labs where I used to work had 100% ethanol and once a year they would have a cocktail night in the lab and make crazy drinks up with liquid nitrogen and dry ice etc.


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