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Acemastr
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Neds will love this Reply with quote

https://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/127250-accident-dont-do-what-i-did.html

Give it a good kick and watch the owner cry
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah and then watch them push over your bike!

I love the new GTR but that's a shitter!
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeeesus Shocked

That has to be the dumbest attempt at safety enhancement I have ever seen. How is that going to save a pedestrian? It might stop them going through the windscreen but they're still going over to top and probably getting minced in the spoiler.

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PostPosted: 13:33 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I clicked, expecting something along the lines of 'making someone crash into the back of you'...

But, fuck me, that is completely ridiculous! I snorted. And it was a snot snort too. Shocked
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PostPosted: 13:46 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

the grim reaper wrote:
Jeeesus Shocked

That has to be the dumbest attempt at safety enhancement I have ever seen. How is that going to save a pedestrian? It might stop them going through the windscreen but they're still going over to top and probably getting minced in the spoiler.

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I think the idea is that when the pedestrian hits the bonnet there will be some give instead of them hitting the top of the engine.
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Omega wrote:

I think the idea is that when the pedestrian hits the bonnet there will be some give instead of them hitting the top of the engine.


Still a dumb idea, the least of my worries would be how hard the bonnet is if I am hit by a Skyline, the broken legs will take my mind off how hard the bonnet felt.

The daft thing, if the members on that forum are to be believed, is that the US, litigation capital of the world, don't have the same system!

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PostPosted: 14:23 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

£11,000, to effectively do nothing more than 'reset the safety'.

Pretty much along the same lines as Mitsubishi wanting £600 for a new g-meter (I took mine apart, a shonky little PCB worth about a quid in the real world) and £1200 for an ECU, which when I looked at that was less impressive than the PCB from a £10 transistor radio. I did some creative re-wiring to get around the MOT failure that would otherwise have necessitated a purchase of one of the aforementioned components. The guy with the Nissan should have done the same.

These fucking parasite companies need to be prosecuted for fraud and conspiracy to defraud. They're not fitting this kind of shit for genuine safety reasons, they're fitting it because they know it'll be triggered by next to nothing and then they can charge whatever the fuck they like to re-set it or your car's going nowhere.

£11,000 to close the bonnet. Rolling Eyes Scum.
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it fires them back off in the same direction? "GTFO my bonnet!".

Now, maybe I'm being silly here, they're all on about re-flashing the ECU and such. Why can't they just disconnect the wires from the rams? If they aren't connected to anything, they can't go off.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Maybe it fires them back off in the same direction? "GTFO my bonnet!".

Now, maybe I'm being silly here, they're all on about re-flashing the ECU and such. Why can't they just disconnect the wires from the rams? If they aren't connected to anything, they can't go off.


'cause that would probably trigger some sort of fatal ECU fault to be displayed - and your car wouldn't move anywhere!
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PostPosted: 15:10 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes me glad I bought that Enfield motorbike.

If it won't start, it means your points need resetting.
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, 11k is incredible.

Horrific for people who skint themselves to buy their dream car and are then faced with that, but then again HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Suck it hard.

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PostPosted: 15:15 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonder how many people have disabled the "Pedestrain Saftey system" after reading that.
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

It kinda makes sense the way the system works. There are new european laws which mean the bonnet on all new cars has to be a certain distance from the engine so that the pedestrians impact energy is absorbed by the bonnet (which is relatively soft and flexible) as opposed to the cylinder head (which is pretty damn hard and nearly immobile).

I suspect that Nissan designed this system to get around that law, but I still can't believe that it cost £11000 to reset it. That is scandalous.

Surely the rams can be re-usable, along with the ECU and probably the bonnet if the driver didn't actually hit a pedestrian?
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Nissan realised that the people who will be buying this car can either afford to pay to have it fixed, or will go through the insurance. There's no way in this day in age that this safety system requires a one use ECU.

Renault (who basically own Nissan now) are well known for making components that they know will break and then charge loads for replacement parts.

Take for example window regulators. Ever since the original Scenic came out they have been shit quality items on all Renault models (and still are), then they have the cheek to sell the complete regulator with motor for £200 + labour, when all they need to do is replace the plastic pulley wheels with metal ones. For over ten years they have been ripping their customers off with just this one scam.

Nissans have now inherited these money making components since Renault bought into them when the new Primera was released. Strange that Thinking .

A lot of these cars will be destined for the track, so do Nissan offer an £11k cheaper track model? Do they fuck.
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PostPosted: 16:50 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

From GTR site wrote:

I underwrite motor insurance for a living and I'd love to see the bill. You can PM me if you dont want to put it on the forum. I wont call or make contact with anyone youve been in contact with but I will talk to Nissan and the ABI because this is madness!

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PostPosted: 16:51 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see it being the 'must have mod' for the discerning skyline owner / badboi gansta about town. Popped bonnet = trashed some people, innit blud.

(I'm sorry for using that "phrase", I was just illustrating a point. Please forgive me.)
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 13 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

All cars should be fitted with this system, it'd make a good deterrent/punishment for tailgaters Laughing .
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 15 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the 11k include the cost of hire car and the insurers bill or something because some of the parts prices on there don't reflect the overall claimed bill.

5 weeks worth of storage + hire car + parts + labour + delivery + solicitors = 11k? Sounds a bit more likely than an ECU and some 'rams'. Laughing
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