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PostPosted: 17:03 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

So who won at the karting this year then? Gutted I could'nt be there to defend my title Laughing Next time for sure. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac_Kaliba wrote:
So who won at the karting this year then? Gutted I could'nt be there to defend my title Laughing Next time for sure. Thumbs Up


Karting 1 (qualify session)
Wave2k - 30.4
Luke-30.5
Jonathan S-30.8

Karting 2 (fast folk)
Wave2k-29.841
Jonathan S-29.943
Danny-30.3

Mini Moto 1(qualify session
Timing Error

Mini Moto 2 (fast folk)
Wave2k-30.3
Phoenix-31.3
G-31.5

It was a good day for me, i didnt really expect to be up there in Mini moto at all, karting im /ok/ at, but i thought id be permanatly on my arse on the motos.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh, I see where I went wrong now...just watched some of Luke's helmet cam footage...I would have lost time on my mega slides. Laughing There were two places on the circuit, where I slid each time...hence my best score only being 0.32.437.

Perhaps if I wasn't having such fun going sideways, I would have got a better run!!!

Next time, please remind me to bring cushioning for my back...I've got the mother of all whopping great big bruises on my pelvis/hip bone!!!
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PostPosted: 18:49 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

From those lap times I take it they've changed the layout since last November?

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PostPosted: 19:57 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool vid luke Thumbs Up

Still can't work out quite what to do in the kart to go faster, obviously going sideways less Laughing , but how to do that I couldn't quite implement.

Was reading some karting technique guides last night, I must not be tuned to racing speak because it all sounded a bit muddled to me.

I assume its some kind of slower is faster thing. One guide made mention of keeping the steering wheel as near to straight as much of the time, which sounds like it might make sense.

Want to go again. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clanger - I did about the same the first time I did karting - just had fun sliding everywhere with not so great lap times - though that lap time you got isn't bad at all for your first time in them.

covdude - I've done the twin engine karts too, they suck also. Outdoors is a bit of a risk at this time of year - last year the weather was terrible. If you want fast, get a 125 (or if you want /really/ fast 500cc) race kart, hire ones are made to be slow because you've got idiots like us driving them!

Was the stuff you were reading for 'hire' karts goose? The fact that they've got lazy auto engines from a generator means the power delivery isn't quite the same as a 'real' kart I suspect - can probably be on full throttle a lot more on these.
However, yes, good lines generally keep you straight as possible apart from turn in. Furthermore, presumably you're going to get least resistance with the wheels straight.
Years ago now, did it with some work people, on of which raced. None of could get near his corner speed with the same karts. I tried everything - slow in fast out, fast in slow out etc, etc and just couldn't make the kart go around the corner nearly as quickly as him (including moving body etc).

We didn't have the 'proper' races I had previously been promised. But then I'd said more people would turn up and I didn't hassle them as much as I have done other years.

Oh and sorry I was a bit dead everyone, what with five hours of sleep an all I only started waking up towards the end Smile.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Goose

I know where I lose out is on the slow corners. Just can't get my speeds right and land up sliding too much from going too quick, or just over braking. And at that track there are 2 slow corners for me to make a mess of.

Also on the long right I struggled with the kart I was in to use full throttle the whole way round. Take the shallowest line I could and on full throttle the back end was slipping enough to put me into the tyres at the end of the bend (and did at least once).

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:46 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, a couple of times I slid sideways into the barrier with a bit of pace on the back bit.

cov - There's BCF people doing green laning every weekend pretty much. Off-roading covers everything from motocross to trials, while green laning is specifically riding legal trails.
Have wondered about a big meet, but it's a lot of hassle and most of the people doing it have other commitments. The real fun, for me, is enduros and the like though I haven't done any for a while, which anyone can enter (and I've invited people to come along to).
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PostPosted: 20:52 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive done quite a bit of outdoor karting, i think its quite a bit harder than indoor, indoor you reach the limit of grip really easy, the hardest part is to make the most of the grip you got.

Outside you have more grip, and its alot more about taking the right lines etc.

I did an outdoor competition and got mugged of first when the driver behind clipped and span me out of 1st place, ended up about 15th or something in the end Sad
Thats the bad thing about a proper grid race, although i personally find it more fun.
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PostPosted: 20:58 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Outdoor ones tend to be faster and that makes cornering harder and kills your arms. And a proper tarmac track has a lot more grip.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:58 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

wave2k wrote:

Thats the bad thing about a proper grid race, although i personally find it more fun.

That's the good thing Smile.
When we did it a few years ago and they weren't so harsh (though not as bad this time as last year where the woman was quite arsey) Ste took me out when I was in 2nd/3rd or something, meaning I got lapped while waiting. But it was still worth it for the fact you could take the line you wanted and not worry about some gentle taps to remind the person in front they were going too slow Smile.
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha yea, but sometimes it can backfire, see me in lukes vid getting squashed into the barrier and loosing like 3 places.
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just thought I'd let you all know that I FINALLY got home safe just a few minutes ago.

So just to recap over the two days for me that was a total of;

395 miles, or 15 hours of A roads or £20 of petrol on my CG. I have faced many tribulations and gotten lost a great number of times but all in all I can definitely call it my most epic ride so far
Mr. Green Thumbs Up

I'd also like to echo my sentiments that meeting all of you was absolutely amazing. Karting was fun but I had no idea that my first time on a mini moto would feel as spectacular as it did. I really didn't want it to end once I found myself throwing myself in to corners violently enough to occasionally lowside. Special thanks to G for letting me collapse at his place half way.

Finally I feel that it is my duty to inform you after my many trials that the A342 is the longest road in the world, the A272 the most treacherous, the A4 in certain parts the most beautiful and finally, finally the south circular is the pit of Satan that will now be avoided by me at all costs in the future. Thumbs Up

Peace out. Karma
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PostPosted: 21:12 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

holy shit, thats a long day trip out haha.
Pure dedication going that far.

I rode to G's house on my rs125 when i was 17, then hitched a ride on the back of lauras CBR6 all the way to cadwell, those were the days !
the 2004 days Razz

Surely this makes you wanna pass the ol test ?
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

wave2k wrote:
Surely this makes you wanna pass the ol test ?


No person on this earth can want that more than me right now.

Oh, and respect to you for those insane lap times Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers Smile

why are you not doing it ?
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

wave2k wrote:
why are you not doing it ?


Financial issues and I think I'm just going to do a DAS after I turn 21 next month. I suppose I could try to raise some funds by asking people for their hard earned monies here on BCF but I know what the response would be Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a job Razz
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always been up for Karting at Thurxton

https://www.thruxtonkarting.co.uk/Default.aspx

13 Bhp top speed of 55 MPH, I reckon the karts we were using were about 5Bhp.

The tracks 900m long with a lap record of 49s, I dont know if thats in their karts or any kart, suspect we would do nearer just sub 1 mins.

I may bum down with my helmet cam at some point for an arrive and drive see what its like.
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give us a shout if you're going Thumbs Up.
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PostPosted: 11:21 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke wrote:
I've always been up for Karting at Thurxton

https://www.thruxtonkarting.co.uk/Default.aspx


That looks cool - the grand prix event looks perfect for the next bcf outing: https://www.thruxtonkarting.co.uk/Events/Default.aspx#grandprix

I've always fancied going to lakeside - https://www.lakesidekarting.co.uk/seethetrack/
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PostPosted: 12:05 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

daemonoid wrote:
Luke wrote:
I've always been up for Karting at Thurxton

https://www.thruxtonkarting.co.uk/Default.aspx


That looks cool - the grand prix event looks perfect for the next bcf outing: https://www.thruxtonkarting.co.uk/Events/Default.aspx#grandprix

I've always fancied going to lakeside - https://www.lakesidekarting.co.uk/seethetrack/


The lakeside one is good, monday nights are £30 for half an hour aswell, and it's a pretty tough track to master.
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
Just thought I'd let you all know that I FINALLY got home safe just a few minutes ago.

So just to recap over the two days for me that was a total of;

395 miles, or 15 hours of A roads or £20 of petrol on my CG. I have faced many tribulations and gotten lost a great number of times but all in all I can definitely call it my most epic ride so far
Mr. Green Thumbs Up

I'd also like to echo my sentiments that meeting all of you was absolutely amazing. Karting was fun but I had no idea that my first time on a mini moto would feel as spectacular as it did. I really didn't want it to end once I found myself throwing myself in to corners violently enough to occasionally lowside. Special thanks to G for letting me collapse at his place half way.

Finally I feel that it is my duty to inform you after my many trials that the A342 is the longest road in the world, the A272 the most treacherous, the A4 in certain parts the most beautiful and finally, finally the south circular is the pit of Satan that will now be avoided by me at all costs in the future. Thumbs Up

Peace out. Karma


If im honest mate, YOU are the only guy i can ever think of that really REALLY uses the CG for what its for, quality long distance problem free travelling!
Props for doing such a massive distance on £20.. i think it would have cost me...easy £35-£40.. and 7 hours of riding, from 2am...that is MENTAL!!! but massive respect init!
bet that was cold.. Karma
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