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oldpink
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 15 Nov 2009    Post subject: new guitar to add to the collection Reply with quote

yep I had to do it, my 4th Ibanez EW series
this time a 12 string, the EW 3512 QME TCB

had my eye on this for a while and had to get it imported from Germany
as this model isn't available in the Uk
its a dream to play action is very good with the factory string's and they sound good
only problem I have is my capo doesn't work well on it as its a hard rubber clamp one
on the E and A strings the harmony string rattles as the capo is sitting on the much heavier guage
main string and not putting any pressure on the lighter guage harmony string
so it doesn't fret properly so I need to look for a capo that will work on it

but thats an issue with the capo, I can't fault the guitar in any way
I thought it would rip my fingers up a bit
but not in the slightest and I'm playing a lot of songs on it that I'd never have thought I could do
its given me more confidence to try stuff I normally thought of as too hard for me to learn

anyway here's what I bought
the other guitar is the 6 string version of the same range
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PostPosted: 08:10 - 16 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice

I love the finish on ibanez guitars, not played one of their acoustic ones though.


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PostPosted: 15:15 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

got a new capo specifically for a 12 string and problem solved Cool
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PostPosted: 16:06 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never understood how you're supposed to play 12 strings - how can you fret things properly? As for fingerpicking, well, the mind boggles..... I've heard dudes playing them in shops before, lovely sound comes from them.

I have enough trouble playing 6 stringed guitars adequately, not sure doubling them would help me too much....

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PostPosted: 16:11 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am seriously missing my old 12 string now Sad

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PostPosted: 16:59 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

GhostRider wrote:
I've never understood how you're supposed to play 12 strings - how can you fret things properly? As for fingerpicking, well, the mind boggles..... I've heard dudes playing them in shops before, lovely sound comes from them.

I have enough trouble playing 6 stringed guitars adequately, not sure doubling them would help me too much....

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Only played one once but the string spacing is so small you hardly notice.
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PostPosted: 17:56 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damm. too late to recommend the Capo from G7th https://www.g7th.com/ (shameless link as they're very very good)
Anyways..congrats on your new baby..nice bit of maple. Hows it sounding through your amp? I've considered getting an Electro-acoustic, but usually mic up my acoustics, or use my Variax which has some useable guitars.



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PostPosted: 19:14 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've never understood how you're supposed to play 12 strings - how can you fret things properly? As for fingerpicking, well, the mind boggles.....


Its 6 courses of 12 strings (rather than thinking about it as 12 different strings), the gap between one course and another is a lot smaller than the gap between the strings on a usual 6 string guitar.

It's all about providing a fuller sound, and you can tune the strings in each course an octave apart. You'd have to be very accurate to play lead with a 12 string, I think its mainly a rhythm instrument?

Guitar players feel free to correct me on any of this.

Must be a nightmare of a job changing the strings though, I get pissed off after changing a set of four. Laughing

Its the same kind of step up from a Ukulele to a Mandolin (4 strings to 8). I quite fancy a Mandolin Thinking
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PostPosted: 19:56 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I try the wife's 12 string occasionally, but as I tend to play more of a finger picking style than strumming, it's bloody hard and I give up after 20 minutes. Does make picking a 6 string up a lot easier afterwards though Smile
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
I try the wife's 12 string occasionally, but as I tend to play more of a finger picking style than strumming, it's bloody hard and I give up after 20 minutes. Does make picking a 6 string up a lot easier afterwards though Smile


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PostPosted: 22:17 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

playing some 12 strings is hard but normally because the action is too high
or the strings are too heavy but get a good one with good strings and there not much harder to play
I'm playing this one almost as well as I do the 6 string unless its a lot of bar chords
then its sore on the fingers but I love it to bits and it sounds great
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:

Must be a nightmare of a job changing the strings though, I get pissed off after changing a set of four


well as there are 13 guitars in the house and there all played regularly
and I go through a set every 2 - 3 weeks on each guitar so normally I go through a set a week as I have 3 acoustics I play
I buy multi packs of string's (5 and 10 pack) on E bay about once a month
and I use Elixir strings which are a tenner a pack and £17 for the 12 its more the expense than changing them
I can do a 6 string in under 5 mins and a 12 in just over 10
mind you being a roadie for 10 years is good practice
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good set of strings will last me months and months and that's with me hammering the strings every day Cool
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
A good set of strings will last me months and months and that's with me hammering the strings every day Cool


its not that they don't last its the tone, I play every day and for a couple of hours
yeah I need to get a life Embarassed
try Elixier's there about twice the price of standard strings but there worth it
I was going through Rotosounds at the rate of a pack a week before I switched
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 17 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I seriously start to prefer the tone of my strings after they are "worn in" rather than when they are new though. Each to their own though I guess. Must be like old people preferring the hissing and pops from their favourite LP's as they used to hear them back in the day.
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 18 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can;t beat the clean and slender tone of a fresh deck of strings on the neck, it's good motivation to kill 3-4 hours riffin away.

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