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t121anf
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 18 Nov 2009    Post subject: Fallout Games, specifically 3 Reply with quote

just a quick question, are the fall out games like COD in the sence that you have a set story to follow allbeit it with "challenges" or are them more a FPS where you have to unravel the puzzles?

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PostPosted: 23:02 - 18 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its simmilar to Oblivion, Two worlds or Fable. There is a set story BUT you can explore the world, do other side missions before doing the main missions. Its mostly FPS styled. I wouldn't exactly called them challenges or puzzles... More like an FPS RPG. Most FPS's force you to head in a single direction to follow the mission. Fallout lets you attack from any angle or find other routes into buildings.

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PostPosted: 00:24 - 19 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fallout 3 is amazing.

Basically you start off as a child, and learn how to play the game. After 30mins or so you leave the tutorial bit, and are basically left to do what you wish.

If you want to hunt down the main quest - you can. I actually stumbled upon a later main quest - which meant I jumped forward earlier quests.

If you get bored of this, you can hunt out other missions, help people out, become the President of a town, decide the fate of settlements, collect scraps to build your own weapons, make friends who will fight alongside you......basically, play it how you want to....if you don't get 20 hours out of it, I would be VERY suprised.

Get it, one of the best gaming experiences ever IMO.
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PostPosted: 03:18 - 19 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm fairly sure my last fallout game had 50+ hours and I hadn;t got to the end. (had done both the first 2 expansion packs)
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PostPosted: 09:33 - 19 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmmm doesn't really sound like my cup of tea.

i thought i like "on rails" games but after playing some on the wii i decided they are too restrictive, on playing COD i was impressed, last FPS shooter I played was Wolfenstein years ago and I hated the puzzle aspect of walking about trying door after door in hope of finding your way.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 19 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

t121anf wrote:
hmmm doesn't really sound like my cup of tea.

i thought i like "on rails" games but after playing some on the wii i decided they are too restrictive, on playing COD i was impressed, last FPS shooter I played was Wolfenstein years ago and I hated the puzzle aspect of walking about trying door after door in hope of finding your way.


I thought the same when I watched my brother playing Oblivion when I was doing coursework, so I'd see him sit there fore 5-6 hours at a time, wondering what the hell the appeal was because it didn't look that great.

When he buggered back off to the Navy, I picked up the controller and thought "see what all the fuss is about". I was hooked. It wasn't until 60+ hours of gameplay later that I realized I'd levelled up too much to complete the main mission and gave up

.....(oblivion has some shitty system where if you levelled up the enemies became harder to match you level but this meant that if you left it too long the main mission was virtually impossible to complete and effectively you had the best chance of completing the main mission when you were at level 1, which is gash really, but I digress.....),

however, those were 60 hours well entertained and engaged.

Fallout 3 is good as well, but I completed the main game quite quickly and then was too busy to have the time to play it more, and over time lost the feel for it so I think I'd have to start from the beginning to get back into it and remember the story etc.

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PostPosted: 13:32 - 19 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fallout 3 is too Americanised. Didn't like it.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl is amazing.
30km square of free roaming. Realistic game considering it was first designed back in 2003 so graphics are not tip top but I have had so many hours of gameplay with that. Loads of mods for it aswell.
You can get a copy for a few quid off ebay for PC.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R Clear sky is also brill.
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PostPosted: 18:30 - 19 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what i've seen of Fallout 3 I'm not too keen, I havent yet played it, and I will probably buy it regardless when I get round to it because i'm a massive fallout nut. I enjoyed Oblivion until I got sick of the stupid levelling system and Fallout 3 is made with the same engine by the same people.

I completed Fallout 1 for the first time last year, and it is now probably one of my favourite games ever, having never been in to RPG's before, never caught on to baldurs gate or neverwinter nights. It takes a fair investment of time to get going, not as pick up and play as Fallout 3 i'd imagine (I originally picked up fallout about 5 years ago, and dismissed it after 20 minutes because I didn't understand RPG's and didnt read the manual).

I'm approx half way through fallout 2 at the moment, i've probably put more hours into it than 1 already as its much larger and much more difficult to get going, but its also much more bugged, feels much more patched together with a less cohesive story lines, and too many areas are just rehashed from the first game. So it feels less epic and less enjoyable, but considering it was released only a year after the first I guess you couldn't expect perfection.

Fallout 3 is NOT what the fans of the first two games were waiting for, which is why there is such a massive opinion divide over it between the younger, instant gratification shiny graphics xbox360 generation who thought fallout 3 was the best thing ever, and the older geeky more hardcore pc role playing types who were expecting more of the same from 3 as the first two games.

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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl is amazing.
30km square of free roaming.


Not so sure on amazing, but I havent invested enough time in it yet maybe.

It's definately buggy (though I havent patched a thing yet, got fed up trying to find out concise version information), and the fact that the massive free roaming idea is broken up into 1km square (approx?) chunks with barbed wire bounderies it kind of kills the illusion.

All the games mentioned are definately gems in their own way, but they all have massive flaws which you need to get past to fully enjoy them.

I can't wait until they release something along these lines without a massive achilles heel.
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PostPosted: 21:32 - 19 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

WildGoose wrote:

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S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Shadow of Chernobyl is amazing.
30km square of free roaming.


Not so sure on amazing, but I havent invested enough time in it yet maybe.

It's definately buggy (though I havent patched a thing yet, got fed up trying to find out concise version information), and the fact that the massive free roaming idea is broken up into 1km square (approx?) chunks with barbed wire bounderies it kind of kills the illusion.

All the games mentioned are definately gems in their own way, but they all have massive flaws which you need to get past to fully enjoy them.

I can't wait until they release something along these lines without a massive achilles heel.


I think the whole point of these games is to mod them. I had a few mods e.g. no fences at all and upgrade the carrying capacity a bit when first playing. It isn't broken down into to many bits and it takes no time at all, probs 5 seconds to load the next one with decentish pc.

There also 20mb mods that change the whole storyline aswell, allow you to join factions and create your own and control them. You could play for absolutely ages.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 19 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

allymoss wrote:
Fallout 3 is too Americanised. Didn't like it.


not being funny ally... But it is set in washington fucking D.C. Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 20 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trylski wrote:
Its simmilar to Oblivion, Two worlds or Fable. There is a set story BUT you can explore the world, do other side missions before doing the main missions. Its mostly FPS styled. I wouldn't exactly called them challenges or puzzles... More like an FPS RPG. Most FPS's force you to head in a single direction to follow the mission. Fallout lets you attack from any angle or find other routes into buildings.

Fawkes is awesome btw Razz


Don't talk wet!

Fallout 3 (not played the others) is extremely far from an FPS.

Don't forget that you basically choose what happens, the game 'forms' around your actions (ok, you still have the main storyline to do) but you can choose who your mates/enemies are, how your guy turns out (good/evil), decide the fate of a town with a big fuck off nuke etc Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 21 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 13:54 - 21 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

allymoss wrote:
Fallout 3 is too Americanised. Didn't like it.


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PostPosted: 21:27 - 23 Nov 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

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