DIY surgery.

Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

Maybe Stinkwheel can help with this.

I have a lump in the back of my hand, most likely caused by a growth of protective tissue around a piece of glass. It causes a weird unpleasant feeling when it gets moved around or hit, so I decided it was time to try and remove it. I got through the skin ok but the lump appears to be attatched to what I think is the nerve that runs right through that area. I cut the lump open, but what with too much blood and it being very painful each time the icecube wore off I didn't have much success. I also tried stabbing it with a pair of very sharp modelling tweezers and levering it out, but it won't come. I've tried to feel for the glass in it but no joy with that either. I'd be much more brutal with it IF I could be sure that's it's either not attatched to a nerve or, if it is, won't pull the nerve apart if I force it.

So, the question is, does a protective cyst tend to attatch to nerve-tissue?
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Ariel Badger · Super Spammer Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Karma :

No idea but direct stimulation of a nerve is hideous not just a bit stingy. Have you tried burning it with a hot nail?
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MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

home surgery isnt a very good idea.

i had the bone graft site on my hip get infected after a proper op, and tried a bit of self help.
this involved stabbing the wound several times with needles and squeezing hard to get the puss out.
needless to say, the recently operated on injury split, and resulted in a bit more hospital time.

you'll probably only make it worse.

or... just grip it with pliars, grit your teeth and pull hard.
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Have you looked on Wikipedia? Laughing

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cvntdude · Spanner Monkey Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Karma :

If you already half done the job, then you might get some immediate joy, down the A n E, you could call them and ask if they have such a thing as a not to busy time, and go then ... Thumbs Up

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yuri2085 · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Karma :

Yer if you go in with a gaping wound from failed self surgery I think they might bump you up a bit from months to hours/days.

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This thread is useless without high quality pictures.

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cvntdude · Spanner Monkey Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Karma :

I think stinky will tell you all things considered, to go down the Hospital .... but if you do do it then the pics might be better,....

Seriously though, if you think there is any sort of chance of damaging the nerve then you being a bit silly, i mean it's like me trying to service a motorbike, an act of folly ...

Me out, good luck ... Thumbs Up

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syl · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Karma :

mattsprattuk got it right - home surgery isnt a very good idea. Even if you were an expert and knew exactly what you were doing, doing it one handed whilst in pain, with poor lighting, without the correct tools and in "dirty" (i.e. not sterile) conditions, well, lets just say that it's not likely to result in a perfect outcome every time. There are better ways of having it done.

Can you be sure that it isn't attached to a nerve? It's not likely (though a nerve may be very close by and get damaged in your attempt anyway), but no, no-one sensible is likely to give you that kind of reassurance without seeing it (or at all, if (s)he thought you would take that as a green light to have a go at hacking it out yourself).

See someone who can do it properly for you (either on the NHS, or even privately if you think that the NHS is so bad).
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

I'm pretty sure that dmahon is a surgeon, so knows what he is talking about.

Something else worth thinking about, is that you have a lot of tendons for your fingers on the back of your hand, so chopping about with a knife, is probably a bad idea.
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Skudd · Super Spammer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Karma :

White spirit, craft knife/scalpel tweezers, ice, super glue, tape and some courage.

it is the glass you want out, the glass will be above the nerve, if it is anywhere near the nerve in the frist place, the cyst will protect the nerve and surround the glass. Cut through the cyst untill you feel the blade grind on the glass, use tweezers to get glass out, contents of cyst more than likely will come out with glass or some pressure, leaving cyst sack, if it is attached, in the hand. this will then go a bit manky, but another slice a week later will clear that up. Then the remaining bits of cyst will be absorbed back into hand.
Done loads of times with glass, wood, metal,stones etc embedded in all areas, knees, hands, legs, shoulders etc. The glass in the thumb muscle bled for a few days, but strapping a tampax to the wound stopped the mess.
White spirit to clean things, super glue to stitch things up. Thumbs Up

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GhostRider · World Chat Champion Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Karma :

Don't use white spirits, use ethanol.

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Hetzer · Super Spammer Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Karma :

I used brandy, and that smarted too.

I put a bandaid on it last night, which got soaked overnight in blood and plasma, all over the sheet as well. Now it's just leaking a steady stream of plasma. I might have another go at it later as the slit hasn't scabbed over or healed in any way yet. I might put a rockery in too, maybe a small pond and a nice paved path and stuff.
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Skudd · Super Spammer Joined: 01 Oct 2006 Karma :

Save all the plasma in a jar, when you have enough you could DIY yourself a TV.
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