Tyres with good grip from cold - your experiences?

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Interested to hear about people's experiences with tyres with good grip from cold. Not warming up quickly, but good grip while still cold.
I'm specifically looking for objective reasoning, where people can report on which tyres their recommendations are better than in what circumstances etc.

So 'I stuck these conti's on it FELT so much more planted' won't really help me, but 'riding my friend's bike with these michelins on the same road I was able to get on the throttle a lot harder than my bike, despite them both being similar sports 600s' would be helpful .

Nore sure there are as many sadly analytical as I am at times, but I'd like to hear from you if there are .

[Mystery]

i wouldn't have thought that there would be many tires that give decent grip from cold but most warm up quickish are quiet expensive anyway
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[temeluchus]

I loved my Avon Azaro AV45/46. Never gave me any grief when cold even in the wet.

BT020s were close and contiforce also fine.

Dunlop D220s werent nearly as good cold.
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[evoboy]

Pirelli Diablo Corsa's i had on the zx6 always felt good from cold.

BT-014's i had on the same bike were awful cold or warm

Avon Viper Sports ( AV56 i think) i have on the zx6 at the moment have been brilliant from cold and suprisingly in the wet! (punted for them, even though everyone told me they were shite)

Have had Michelin Pilot sports and Pilot power 2ct's on it aswell. Never really had chance to try either in the crappy winter weather though...
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[johnsmith222]

BT021's have been great for gunning it wet or dry from as soon as I set off.

Had them let go twice in the wet when they were new though (as would most in the same situations), but apart from that they were all good.

Only thing is they're a bit expensive for my liking.

[Seb]

The roadsmarts fitted to my ZZR600 were absolutely sublime giving me reasonable levels of confidence even on short trips on cold damp morning tarmac. They didn't seem to work quite as well with the heavier Futura though.

Dare I say it, the avon road riders that came fitted to my GS seem to grip surprisingly well and I can't say I've knowingly slid the bike at all even from absolute stone cold. Too bad the feedback from the rear tyre is so awful, I can only guess the tyre carcass has too much flex in it? It just kind of wallows and feels like it's under inflated as you lean the bike over.

The worst tyre I've experienced cold was the BT 010 rear that came on my SP1, having a near high side moment when it completely let go pulling out of Jaspers onto Lambhay hill after parking up for 30 minutes was the final straw.
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[bunglehaze]

Previously really loved my Michelin Pilot Power 2CT until I took them off and replaced them with a new set of Metzeler Z6 Interacts. Not put them fully through their paces but in monsoon conditions straight after fitting I didnt get any slipping or ring puckering moments.

After scrubbing them in the seem to grip remarkably well in the cold as well as the wet.

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[Pie-Roe]

I don't know how much it compares, but I've always fitted dunlop sportmax rrs to my bikes, and always been able to jump on and do some KD/wheelie/stoppie showboating straight at the local roundabouts with much more confidence than my peers. This is on everything from a zxr750 to rf900 with a few supermotos in between (and a GS500 for shits and giggles). We all ride each others bikes and I feel that these tyres are more suitable for jump on and go than the equivelent michelins, and much better than bt021s. I jump on a lot of other peoples bikes and I don't feel the same comfort straight up. Admittedly I have ridden mainly supermoto recently, but because of the weight I find it hard to get that much heat into them in shortish rides, which I guess helps you out.

The only thing I did find was the same tyres don't handle /that/(but still pretty good compared to some I've had) well in the wet, but I presume you don't want cold+wet+extreme angles without spending lots of money on gp tyres?

Pyro
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[J D]

Bt 21s for me, i use to be able to leave work on a cold november/ december day and be able to clutch it up on the road outside with no trouble.
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[MarJay]

I've always liked Diablo Corsas and the plain road Diablos. I'm tempted to try some Angel ST's for my next set...
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[CaNsA]

I wasnt a big fan of the Diablos, but the BT090 are awesome from cold.

Then again, by the time you warm the bike up to a temp thats good for pushing the rubber, your tyres should be warm anyhows.

[P.addy]

Ive never had a tyre slip from cold when ive used ContiRoad Attack's
They also warm up pretty quickly, from my perspective anyway.
I would recommend them, but then again, ive got a BT021 set on my GS and they havent slipped on me yet either, though I am a bit more cautious with these tyres as ive not really used them before.

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Cheer for the thoughts so far.

Be interested, in those that have recommended 021s, to hear how they compare to 020s, are they similarly good?

CaNsA_temporary: not really at this time of year. Gentle throttle with the wrong tyre (on my fairly powerful commuter) will see my tyre spinning up going down the short road my house is on. Further, my commute involves lots of traffic lights - so in properly cold conditions they will easily get back to the temp they started or lower (garage'd at night) by the time I next move.

Incidentally, unfortunately looking for superbike sizes (120F, 180/190R), should have mentioned before.

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[chris-red]

The BT014s on my S4 also gave good grip from cold, there is a sweeping left hander about 20 second from my house I always find myself pushing hard than I should straight from the off, usually because I haven't ridden the thing in a while. The Diablo Strada have been brilliant on my TDM they have a good life span and I'm never spin the TDM rear in the dry but then the zx9 has a dump load more power so.
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[supZ]

in my modest selection of tyre experience my B016s are definately a good grip out hte bag tyre.

but then i choose teh sensible option and dont hammer it the moment i leave the house in the morning
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With decent tyres, there's no big problem - just as with cars, if you chuck cheap chinese tyres on your car, even if you've got fancy traction control and ABS (though much less so if you do, but of course you can get ABS bikes) then it's going to get a bit scary in poor conditions.
Even with good tyres on my car, a little bit of sillyness can still lead to a lot of sideways-ness.
The situation I describe with the U-turning car can still just as easily happen if you’re in a car, especially if you’re accelerating harder than average from the lights, which other cars may not expect. Maybe you’re less likely to be hurt, but you’re also less likely to be able to avoid the situation and have a whole load more hassle generally, I’d say.

I haven't bought a new-model tyre for a long time, so trying to get an idea of how the current versions compare with tyres I ‘know’.

Also be interested to hear how 014/1016s compare to 010s.
As before, definitely interested to hear from those that can give a comparison of tyres in similar conditions where one the limits have actually been ‘tested’ .

[thewildblue]

Run a slightly lower pressure for the winter so they warm up a little quicker maybe ?

I run roadsmarts on the versys, going out at 5am each morning no probs whatsoever......

[chris-red]

I've had 010, 012 and 014 on the S4 getting 016's next. The only thing I have noticed is progressively the center of the tire lasted longer. But TBF it has been ages inbetween riding with them I haven't had a set of BT010's for about 3 years I think
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[TheDonUK]

The ones that stick out in my mind for never letting go even from cold were Standard Pirelli Diablos.
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