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clancy
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PostPosted: 13:17 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: What bike lock ? Reply with quote

ok so ive just recently sold my moped and bought a geared bike.
love the thing to pieces and really dont want it to get stolen lol.
so what sort of wheel lock or whatever should i get?

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PostPosted: 13:45 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Re: What bike lock ? Reply with quote

Hardened motobike chain with padlock - bang it rhough the frame and around any solid object you can find. At home it might be worth filling a flowerpot with concrete and setting a chain into it if you cannot lock it in a garage or shed.

Can also be worth putting the bike under a raincover if it is stuck outside. Spend the extra to get a heatproof, breathable one.

I also use a disc lock on the front, it isn't worth much but tends to keep amateur hour away.

Can also be worth smartwater marking your bike, it costs sod all and putting the stickers on the bike to deter the more professional breakers.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 16 Apr 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

well its locked in my garage at night.
i only need it for when i park out or something.

so a chain lock is the best to go for ?
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PostPosted: 03:03 - 10 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

An Almax lock preferably locked to something solid.

There's no comparison.
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PostPosted: 07:57 - 10 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As important as a lock for the bike is making your garage secure - which is surprisingly easy. For a few quid you can make it impossible for thieves to open your garage door without ripping it right off (and waking the whole neighbourhood).
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PostPosted: 11:44 - 10 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just bought:

Chain:
ALMAX Series 4

Best one on the market at them moment. Get 1.5 meter as 1 meter is to short to be able to chain the bike to lamp posts etc..

Lock:
ABLOY 362

Again after a very good few months of research on forums, websites etc., it's the best i could find. They are around £200 brand new but on ebay you can find them for £70 which is a great deal.

I have spoken to guys from the Anti-motorcycle Theft Campaign and they advised on buying these also. See what you can find...
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 10 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember you have to carry the thing around with you. So if it's too big/heavy then one day you might not bother......

Myself, I read that about 80% of bikes are stolen from the home address, so decided an alarm/disc lock that and a fairly lightweight cable/chain would be enough to put off the chancers when out and about.

My heavyweight stuff stays at home (but parked outside, tho out of sight-ish).

Also, if you're commuting, don't leave your lock behind (eg around your favourite lamp post) as it may be missing/glued up/etc one morning when you get there and then how are you going to lock the bike?
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 10 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will say again: big ass chain. Mine tends to stay locked to the back of the bike when I am zipping about, but then I am never intend to have another bike stolen again...
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 10 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't be bothered to take it with you then don't complain when the bike goes missing....
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 11 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a Kriega tail pack.

Forget the shitty motrax one with a zip. A decent chain will eventually bust out of that.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 12 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

As many as you can afford! The more the better.
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 12 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adrian wrote:
If you can't be bothered to take it with you then don't complain when the bike goes missing....


this , get Almax or Pragmasis
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 30 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you use a chain lock of any sort, make sure no part of it is resting on the floor - wrap it around the wheel or frame twice if necessary to keep it above the ground. If any part of it is on the floor, it enables gobshites to use a crowbar or hammer and chisel to aim blows against it. Keeping it elevated eliminates this avenue of attack.
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PostPosted: 20:26 - 30 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you use a chain lock of any sort, make sure no part of it is resting on the floor - wrap it around the wheel or frame twice if necessary to keep it above the ground. If any part of it is on the floor, it enables gobshites to use a crowbar or hammer and chisel to aim blows against it. Keeping it elevated eliminates this avenue of attack.
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PostPosted: 15:27 - 31 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

All you need:

Almax chain, Decent BIG padlock.
Oxford disc lock, I heard one of their's has a guarantee where if your bike is stolen and the disc lock was defeated they replace your bike?
Tank bag, mine has always housed my lock etc it's a 'B-Square' which I think I've seen police bikers on Road Wards use, it was from 'Lidl' for like 30quid.
Rucksack, I have a KNOX one that has held out through lot's of unneccesary abuse. Thumbs Up

The latter two are mentioned because you will need at least one to carry the lock(s).

Most bikes taken are (super)sports or crosser/trials.
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PostPosted: 19:27 - 01 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
Oxford disc lock, I heard one of their's has a guarantee where if your bike is stolen and the disc lock was defeated they replace your bike?
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I got told this when i bought an alarmed disc lock. Oxford Gold Series Alarmed Disc lock. Really good. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 02 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem is, anything we buy will only slow a persistant thief down.

Oxford are risking it with a G'tee like that; if a lot of new 10K Mille's from some posh are were nicked they'd appreciate it. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:28 - 02 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Martay wrote:
st3v3 wrote:
Oxford disc lock, I heard one of their's has a guarantee where if your bike is stolen and the disc lock was defeated they replace your bike?
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I got told this when i bought an alarmed disc lock. Oxford Gold Series Alarmed Disc lock. Really good. Thumbs Up


I got a Oxford Boss Alarm Disc Lock a while ago but didn't see anything about guarantee to replace the bike if the lock was defeated?????? Is this in the small print somewhere?

A bloody good lock though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 02 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
Problem is, anything we buy will only slow a persistant thief down.


I wish people would stop saying that. I know it's technically true, but it sounds almost too much like "meh, may as well not bother as it won't really make a difference - it won't stop theft" (or at least gives that impression).

Obviously anything human made can be beaten by other humans - so any security can theoretically be beaten, given TIME, but it's TIME that you can deprive a thief of to the extent where they either simply won't try (the best security Thumbs Up ), or where they'll give in or get caught before they're done beating it.

Example for you: Living in a town/city. If you use an Almax Series 4 chain (as an example of the "best" imo, chain) through the frame of your bike, to a lamp post near your house (or better yet, a decent ground anchor) - i can pretty much guarantee you no one will steal your bike. If you combine this with a motion-sensing alarm that covers the area around your bike (i got my fully-featured system for £70 and i'm sure you can use a baby monitor or something cheaper if desired) then you're laughing as not only will attacking the chain be making a *loud* noise, but the alarm is sure to be blaring too. No one is going to be able to steal the bike, especially if you're in (unless you prefer to cower under the bed than go out there and hit the attempted-thieves) - or of course unless you leave your keys somewhere they can easily get to if they break in to your house (*facepalm*). They won't have it away in time via the standard means - it'll take too many minutes to break the chain with their loud power tools. And they can't use silent tools like bolt croppers - as even the Almax Series 3 guarantees you can't break them with croppers, and there's independently verified videos floating around proving it. It's for that reason i personally won't use any other chain than Almax, because if it can be silently bolt-cropped/similar, then what's the point in bothering, as yes, it will just "slow them down" rather than stop them.

My point is that with low-grade security i think it's more of a deterrant and a slow-them-down, but with properly thought out security, you can pretty much (as in nearly but not quite) prevent theft of your bikes. Unless you've peed off the British secret services or equivalent, of course Wink
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PostPosted: 03:07 - 03 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

clancy wrote:
well its locked in my garage at night.
i only need it for when i park out or something.

so a chain lock is the best to go for ?


You'd be suprised how easy it is to break into a garage mate, plant a ground anchor in and a good bike chain & lock - not talking about those cyclist 2cm thick things that look like they can be cut in half with a pair of scissors, i mean the full blow on things.

If your out and about keep it in a carpark etc and you can't chain it might be worth getting a disc lock alarm - makes a high pitch screetch when its touched about lol.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 19 Jan 2010    Post subject: Grip Lock! Reply with quote

I find chain's and such like a pain so ended up with a little red lock that locks the throttle lever and front brake... More of a detterent of course, but has seemed to do the trick Razz Check it out https://www.grip-lock.com/
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