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Mystery
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PostPosted: 01:04 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: belstaff Reply with quote

anyone know if the belstaff jackets are any good or not? or anyone used their products before?
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PostPosted: 08:29 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Belstaff have been around for years and are a well known respected manufacturer
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not as good as they used to be, their stuff seems to be more fashion biased.

However 4-5 years ago now I had a belstaff red jacket which held up nicely from several offs.
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

They got bought out by an Italian fashion design house recently so I can't coment on the quality of the newer stuff but they were originally producers of top notch bike gear.

I've had a pair of bellstaff leather jeans for the last 15 years. Still going strong, been off in them (at speed) twice.

Their waxed cotton stuff always struck me as having the ability to both stink and to maintain your skin temperature about 2 degrees below what is strictly comfortable in all conditions. Cost many hundreds of pounds now though, the waxed cotton jackets are pretty much what the fashion house bought them for.
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PostPosted: 08:46 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very reto and very expensive ( like my Irvin flying jacket) I think you will pay far more than £200 for one new. A quick look at the website confirms two things.
1. you can spend £950 on one.
2. The website is very hard to navigate.
click your cash away!
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PostPosted: 11:50 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a bit of a Belstaff tart, got lent an old Trialsmaster jacket from an ex's dad a few years back for wearing on the enfield and thought it looked great, so when he took it back I needed to get another one (I now own 5 different bellstaff jackets...)! Basically, if you buy belstaff you are paying for the design (and that can be over £500 for a simple leather jacket in some cases!)- IMO they did and do make the best looking bike gear, classic simple styles which aren't overstated (with the acception of some of the 80s stuff)


If it's the wax cotton ones you are looking at, they aren't that warm and will offer next to no protection in a crash, so it would be purely a tart/pose value purchase. Did think about buying a vintage one, but as they were similar in price (seriously) I decided to get one of the newer wax cotton ones which come with CE armor but to be honest are still going to offer FA protection in a crash. Jacket cost me just over *ahem* £300 *ahem* which is a lot to pay for what it is, but I've taken to wearing mine (minus crash protection) as a winter jacket off the bike too for which it performs well above what I need it for. Quality wise though, it's well made but I did have to send my first one back because if came with a tear in the wax cotton (not what you'd expect from a £300 jacket fresh from the factory).

Also got a sort of james dean type old wax cotton one which I picked up on ebay for £60 which is used as a sort of summer/autumn jacket for the enfield, but again offers next to no protection in an off (it's the one on the left). Got a cordura type one which looks similar to that and is used for pillions. Both of which are adequitely warm and well made.

https://addictclothes.img.jugem.jp/20070220_42765.JPG

Also got a proper cordura trialsmaster type number with matching trousers bought from ebay for about £80 (think they are one of the last ones made by the 'old' factory so quite a few years old, but in pretty good nick) and they are pretty good too - more protection and warmer than the wax cotton, but not quite as complete a jacket as something like a weise one (ie no neoprine around cuffs/neck, not as many technical aspects to the jacket).

So to sum up, the older ones a probably more consistant in their quality but any of the wax cotton ones hold their value (and even more so because as mentioned before they seem to be in vogue right now - the Hammond and May are pretty much always in bellstaff gear), the newer ones are pretty expensive for what you are getting, but you pay for the style.

Cheers,
Stu (the Belstaff Tart)


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PostPosted: 11:52 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a belstaff summer jacket thing, kinda mesh looking jacket, with all the armour, cant fault it at all, awesome jacket
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the advice guys, might get one and have a second biker jacket next to my yamaha one, spotted one on the net for like 25 quid 13 postage on a site so might buy it
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a jacket in 2005 for 110 quid. Very comofrtable and warm. Good quality aswell. Pretty much a cheaper version of Hein Gericke but still good quality. Maybe it doesn't have quite the same finsish but then jackets only last 4 - 5 years IMO which this has.

I don't know of it now, but someone just posted that it got bought out. The new stuff does seem very trendy while the old stuff was good quality.
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

blindweezy wrote:
thanks for the advice guys, might get one and have a second biker jacket next to my yamaha one, spotted one on the net for like 25 quid 13 postage on a site so might buy it


My Dad had a Belstaff jacket YEARS(!) ago, when he started biking - Although he no longer has that one, he's after buying another.

I'd say... buy it, sounds like a good price and it's always good to have a spare jacket Smile
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

blindweezy wrote:
thanks for the advice guys, might get one and have a second biker jacket next to my yamaha one, spotted one on the net for like 25 quid 13 postage on a site so might buy it


Can you post the link please
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 19 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:
blindweezy wrote:
thanks for the advice guys, might get one and have a second biker jacket next to my yamaha one, spotted one on the net for like 25 quid 13 postage on a site so might buy it


Can you post the link please
its on fleabay atm so just have a serch Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 07:17 - 20 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah Belstaff......

Had one back in the 70's. Great jacket. Just one major flaw, as it was waxed.
Should you forget that you were not going out on the bike and sit in a car..... You tended to be not very popular with the owner afterwards Laughing
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