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Damon
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 28 Dec 2009    Post subject: Race pattern help... Reply with quote
Hi all, I'm after changing the gearing on my 99 R1 to race pattern but with the standard setup it just wont work, The gear shift goes through the frame and thus will not move any higher. Its quite hard to explain so I have included a lovely paint drawing to illustrate.

I have a feeling its just a case of buying a new gearshift rod/connector but I can't seem to find anything. The rearsets are harris fully adjustable if that makes any difference.

Thanks guys Thumbs Up sorry for the long winded post


https://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7590/gearchange.png
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 28 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Are you sure you cant extend the rod and turn the arm slightly just to reverse its turning, i know your saying you cant find the parts and i would imagine its because the method i've said is used bar extending the foot rest past the frame and the selector arm by means of welding tabs.
Seems weird i'm looking at a picture now and i'm sure it can be done.
If you can maybe put the rearsets on the highest posistion?
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 28 Dec 2009    Post subject: Re: Race pattern help... Reply with quote
Bending the current rod so it actuates the other side of the spline may work.
In other cases I've seen people running a rod outside of the frame.
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TUG
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 28 Dec 2009    Post subject: Re: Race pattern help... Reply with quote
G wrote:
Bending the current rod so it actuates the other side of the spline may work.
In other cases I've seen people running a rod outside of the frame.

This is genuinly bugging me now, i'm sure i've seen race bikes with the rod still through the frame but with that said i think i saw a quickshift set up running outside the frame.
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 28 Dec 2009    Post subject: Re: Race pattern help... Reply with quote
You can buy rods specifically designed for 'race shift' for a variety of popular models that go through the frame.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 28 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Friend did this - I'm pretty sure he just bent the rod!

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Damon
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 28 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
XlonewolfX wrote:
Are you sure you cant extend the rod and turn the arm slightly just to reverse its turning, i know your saying you cant find the parts and i would imagine its because the method i've said is used bar extending the foot rest past the frame and the selector arm by means of welding tabs.
Seems weird i'm looking at a picture now and i'm sure it can be done.
If you can maybe put the rearsets on the highest posistion?


I have had a look and nope, there is no room to do that, it just hits the top of the frame. Rearsets are in the highest position already Neutral

G, got any links for those "race shift" bars?

Cheers for the replies guys
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 28 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Not off the top of my head - may not have been available for your specific model, but have seen them on some bikes.

Googles comes up with this as one option, though this is going outside the frame: https://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=17647 .
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PostPosted: 20:44 - 29 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
G wrote:
Not off the top of my head - may not have been available for your specific model, but have seen them on some bikes.

Googles comes up with this as one option, though this is going outside the frame: https://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=17647 .

Beat me too it, i was going to suggest getting something machined up the is basically a setup like the woodcraft one.
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MaybeGuy
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 29 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
some rearsets ive seen have 2 rods.

failing that, just angle grind the hole bigger.
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PostPosted: 11:25 - 30 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
As you suspected, you DO need a new rod. When you get Harris new, you actually get a few rods with it as you even need to change it depending on how 'aggressive' you have the peg position (IIRC).

Contact Harris, they will supply you the correct one! Thumbs Up

Then stick the race shift one on eBay and probably get twice as much as you paid for the normal shift one, purely coz it has 'race' in the description and people won't look up how much they cost from Harris!! Laughing
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Damon
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 30 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote
Blue_SV650S wrote:
As you suspected, you DO need a new rod. When you get Harris new, you actually get a few rods with it as you even need to change it depending on how 'aggressive' you have the peg position (IIRC).

Contact Harris, they will supply you the correct one! Thumbs Up

Then stick the race shift one on eBay and probably get twice as much as you paid for the normal shift one, purely coz it has 'race' in the description and people won't look up how much they cost from Harris!! Laughing


Thanks mate, ill give them a bell today. I bought the bike with the rearsets already on so didnt have the luxury of choosing gear rods etc...

Thanks again
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