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PostPosted: 18:40 - 26 Dec 2009    Post subject: Getting the wheel off. Reply with quote

I've tried whacking it with a hammer, a wrench, an extension bar, talking nicely, threatening it and wiggling, followed by a little more hammer whacking.

I can't get the bolt out of the swing arm that holds the rear wheel in, like the 2 foot bolt is stuck in the tensioner gap bit thing, bearing in mind it's been stored for about a year, but in that time i'v had the rear wheel off a few times.

Il post pics if needs be, any advice? Cheers.
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 26 Dec 2009    Post subject: Re: Getting the wheel off. Reply with quote

I presume you've got the nut off the spindle?
It may be you've got a bearing rusted onto it - so could try some WD40 around there - remember it'll eat away at grease etc if you do.

Otherwise, an appropriately sized press is worth a go.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 26 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use your small muscles Wink
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PostPosted: 21:33 - 26 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a bigger hammer. Thumbs Up

Could always go for the penetrating oil and/or heat approach too. Probably fuck the bearings, but you were changing them too weren't you? O, and try not to set the grease or tyre on fire.

Should have given the spindle a liberal greasing when you refitted, would have helped.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 26 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is that your hammer blows are being absorbed because the end of the swing arm is unsupported. get some help and wedge a length of wood between the swing arm at the spindle end and a solid wall, that way your efforts will be directed at the spindle rather than just flexing the swing arm.
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 26 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I presume you've got the nut off the spindle?
Indeed, it's like it's all just jammed up together but isn't cold weather supposed to make metal shrink?

ms51ves3 wrote:
Use your small muscles Wink
I have, you can come with your smaller ones though if you fancy it? Laughing

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Get a bigger hammer. Thumbs Up

Could always go for the penetrating oil and/or heat approach too. Probably fuck the bearings, but you were changing them too weren't you? O, and try not to set the grease or tyre on fire.

Should have given the spindle a liberal greasing when you refitted, would have helped.
I'm trying to simple replace a tensioner, I don't want any unnecessary work but I gather a big end bearing's integrity is a little questionable.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 26 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cold weather will also make the metal of the bearings shrink, possibly more than than the spindle Smile.

Something to block the swingarm etc makes sense - and definitely a decent sized mallet if you aren't using one.
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PostPosted: 23:19 - 26 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't have a clue what bike you're all talking about but if non of the above applies then make sure to back of the chain tensioners,
If the chain is tight or the adjusters are out of line then in some cases the spindle just won't budge.
Also try using a suitable drift if available and even try turning the spindle with a ring spanner,
apply pressure unevenly and drag downwards and out on the bolt, spinning in an anti clockwise direction.
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 27 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mac_Kaliba wrote:
and even try turning the spindle with a ring spanner,
apply pressure unevenly and drag downwards and out on the bolt, spinning in an anti clockwise direction.
Ah, now I tried this to start with, but it freed a slight bit then just spun reluctantly although not 'freely'.

The tensioners are ineffective, one is completely slackened off, the other is broke and hasn't worked for about a year before I stopped using the bike.

Il get a big hammer from the car boot tomorrow and try persuading it. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 27 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Park the bike up parallel against a solid brick wall.
Get a piece of 2x2" timber about 18" long (an old chair leg for instance) and place it between the wall and end of the swinging arm and rest it adjacent to the spindle head.
Support the timber with bricks or a suitable crate or use a friend to hold it in place.
Then use your hammer on the other end of the bolt, preferably with the aid of either a drift or lump of hardwood to prevent damage to the spindle threads.
The wall and timber will prevent the bike from absorbing the force applied with the hammer, so all the force (and a lot less of it) will be needed to dislodge the spindle, and prevent any damage to the bike.
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 27 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

romeohotel wrote:
Park the bike up parallel against a solid brick wall.
Get a piece of 2x2" timber about 18" long (an old chair leg for instance) and place it between the wall and end of the swinging arm and rest it adjacent to the spindle head.
Support the timber with bricks or a suitable crate or use a friend to hold it in place.
Then use your hammer on the other end of the bolt, preferably with the aid of either a drift or lump of hardwood to prevent damage to the spindle threads.
The wall and timber will prevent the bike from absorbing the force applied with the hammer, so all the force (and a lot less of it) will be needed to dislodge the spindle, and prevent any damage to the bike.

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PostPosted: 12:24 - 27 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

not to me Smile
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PostPosted: 19:13 - 27 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Laughing ^

Anyhew, my dad is popping round tomorrow so il get him to give me a hand sorting it out, and let you pleasant people know how well served your advice was. Cool
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 27 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

romeohotel wrote:

Then use your hammer on the other end of the bolt, preferably with the aid of either a drift or lump of hardwood to prevent damage to the spindle threads.


Better still just slacken the nut a few turns and leave it in situ on the spindle to prevent damaging the threads.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 28 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you undo the chain adjusters and if it has one a locking bolt for the caliper slide?
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 29 Dec 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

No rear caliper, but I got my dad round who got pissed with me for whacking the spindle without a nut on Embarassed Laughing then after he'd expressed his disgust I stropped off like a sulking little girl, then had a phone call from him saying it was done, so the tension er is now replaced leaving me to find the nut again and tighten it all back up. Very Happy Cool

Cheers peoplez. Thumbs Up
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