Keeping Wheelies Up

Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

There's been topics on this before but my question is about how to keep them up.

I can wheelie my bike through first gear then I run out of revs in 1st ( I know, gold star for me)

But how do you keep it going? Every time I try and change into second gear, I lose the wheelie and it just drops instantly. How do you wheelie through the gears and keep it smooth?

Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

I've got a years no claims on the current insurance and it's up for renewal in May.

However, I turned 25 in November and did a few quotes and it's almost halved for me. Currently with Simply Bikes paying £485 fully comp. I've had a few at around £230...

Is there any way of stopping my current insurance, taking out a new policy and keeping the NCB or transferring it?

I know I will probably have to pay a cancelation fee but I didn't pay for it all up front, it's monthly payments.

Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

That second reply was supposed to be another topic but might as well leave it there as well.

nasty · Traffic Copper Joined: 14 Aug 2008 Karma :

Not sure about the wheelies mate - my knob's of adequate size and I have no need to make up for it Razz

As for the insurance, don't bother cancelling as you've only got 5 months to go to rack up an extra years NCB, it'll cost you to cancel and you'll have wasted the last 7 months Thumbs Up

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Wafer_Thin_Ham · Super Spammer Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Karma :

You need to pull the front wheel higher up so you need less forward speed to maintain the wheelie.

The higher the front goes, the less you need to accelerate. The reason it drops back down when you try and change up is because the front isn't high enough.

Make sure you cover the rear brake aye. Wink

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st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

Have you managed to get to balancing point yet?
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MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

if its the ninja in your pic it should clutch up in second. makes it easier to balance in a higher gear because you've got more time to react to smoother movements unlike the jerky shit you tend to get in first gear.
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!! Mr. Green

Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

To keep it going further, higher is needed basically.
To change up, a clutchless shift into second at a reasonable height should do it.
Definitely be careful and cover the rear brake.

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Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

I've got the balancing point nailed, I can keep it up and balance it to redline in first then it has to come down unless I try an change to 2nd which makes it drop when I clutch it.

It is the ninja in my pic Matt but it's a bitch to clutchless shift from 1st to 2nd, doesn't seem to want to do it when I'm riding normally nevermind doing a wheelie.

I've done a few in 2nd but it's allot harder because it's getting the feel right and if you get it wrong in 2nd, you're going allot faster than in 1st.

Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

Big Ham, it's not that balancing that's the problem, it's the technique of changing from 1st to 2nd, I'm obviously doing it wrong and it drops back down when I try.

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Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

Ah ok, my understanding of the BP was slightly different. Feels as high as I can go without going too far and looping it. I think I need to carry on doing them in 1st and get it spot on before worrying about trying to get it into 2nd then. Everything gets allot scarier the faster you're going, especially trying to control a wheelie at that speed.

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

The balance point is basically the point that you can stay at the same height without increasing revs.
It actually gets lower with more speed, as the air holds the bike up a bit.
Starting in gear may well help smooth it out, but can put a bit of stress on the clutch with stock gearing.
I always found first gear wheelies on the zx6 not too bad with stock gearing.

It might be worth getting someone to film some for you - it's usually a bit depressing and you find it's actually a lot lower than it feels (apart from on the TRX, where it turned out I was actually keeping it balanced at around 11'o'clock, which actually scared me a bit when I watched the video!)

Jayy · Mr. Ponzi Joined: 08 Jun 2009 Karma :

Went out with my brother few month back and recorded a few bit it was too wet and the back wheel just spinning everywhere. I'll try an get some when the weather clears up a bit.

Blue_SV650S · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Nov 2008 Karma :

I am no wheelie king, but when I do give it a bash, I tend to 'hoik' her up in first, then whilst the front is still on the rise from the initial up, clutchless short-shift to second and carry it from there, if the front still rises sharply, then I click 3rd, the higher the gear, the easier it is to control the wheelie, in 1st it is WAY too jerky ... so my Penny Coin

is to get it up the gears ASAP!! Thumbs Up

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st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

These guys are typically good at messing about when they hit balancing point.

You can see 'where it is', because no matter how they do the next stunt the bike stays up there. Thumbs Up

It's basically down to your level of fear and what you'll do until you get there, most sports/tourer/commuter bikes 500cc~ are capable of that stuff you shouldn't have any trouble.
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MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

you

https://www.motorcyclebloggers.com/images/rhino/WheelieSchool1.jpg
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!! Mr. Green

Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

Have you got any shots of your 'bragged about' antics matt? Wink

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Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done

MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

You and Half_Lyfe have had your share.

Dont speak wiv u suvern lot. Fairies.

Wink

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Roger wrote: Women don't get damp for clingy puppies. Get some better happy pills, hit the gym & buy a medallion the size of a dinner plate. Job done

MaybeGuy · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Mar 2007 Karma :

im not quite sure what you're trying to achieve.
have a good night
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Blue_SV650S wrote: it was a sh1te wheelie, but it proves that he can get it up in 3rd and can do angles. In summery, mattsprattuk is a gobby little sh1tebag, dopehead tw4t, but sadly for all of us, he probably isn't THAT full of sh1te!! Mr. Green

Kickstart wrote: Hi I tend to agree with Matt. All the best Keith

technowizpvtl... · Banned Joined: 02 Jan 2010 Karma :

Yaa i am not sure about that..

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T0MMY · World Chat Champion Joined: 08 Jun 2008 Karma :

Yes, basically as technowizpvtltd said, you either need to use more Mumbai based web design companies as you change from first to second to maintain enough acceleration to hold the bike up or you need to employ extra Mumbai based web design companies to find the balance point...it's definitely a Mumbai based web design issue of some sort anyway.
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