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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: MOT Rules Reply with quote

Hi

Just took a bike in for an MOT today.

Examiner says they have just received new instructions on motorcycle exhaust (received yesterday), and they are now to be check on the examiners opinion of how loud they are. Doesn't matter if they have a BS stamp or an E mark, if they are louder than a standard exhaust in reasonable condition then it is meant to fail.

Also numberplates are now to be checked as part of the MOT.

All the best

Keith
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mrchips
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PostPosted: 14:05 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Northern Ireland anyway, illegal number plates will get you failed if you get the wrong inspector. How are they to carry out this loudness check?
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M1ke
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused They are getting stricter all the time. I can't believe all the rules we have and then you go to places like spain and see scooters been ridden around with no bodywork on at all and no lights! Most countries haven't even heard of an MOT.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrchips wrote:
In Northern Ireland anyway, illegal number plates will get you failed if you get the wrong inspector. How are they to carry out this loudness check?


YEs, but your MOT testers are currently on strike so you can get away with no MOTs (for those who don't know, in Northern Ireland MOTs are done by government testing stations who are fairly inefficient and tend to have a hideous waiting list so the easiest thing to do is get a ferry to Scotland and use the garage opposite the ferry port). The noise check will be at the examiners opinion.

M1ke wrote:
Confused They are getting stricter all the time. I can't believe all the rules we have and then you go to places like spain and see scooters been ridden around with no bodywork on at all and no lights! Most countries haven't even heard of an MOT.


Under EU rules all countries have to have regular vehicle inspections. The UK ones are fairly strict, but not the worst. Remember that in Germany you need to declare any modification to a vehicle and have it recorded on your registration documents, even down to the make and model of tyre fitted.

All the best

Keith
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JonB
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

M1ke wrote:
Confused They are getting stricter all the time. I can't believe all the rules we have and then you go to places like spain and see scooters been ridden around with no bodywork on at all and no lights! Most countries haven't even heard of an MOT.

Well then really you should be grateful that our countries powers believe that roadworthy vehicles are of an upmost importance.

Maybe they should improve the standard of the roads as well. Rolling Eyes
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Ste
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least it is down to thier own judgement, as it is possible to get some exhausts which are classed as a race can, but do not have the marking on them and so would fail an MOT at the current time even though they're not loud or whatever. Will mean some places become known for being more slack and will let race cans through as long as the shop is not busy at the time or whatever.

It's good to see that number plate are now being taken into it, as the MOT is meant to test road worthyness and they don't class mini plates as road worthy do they for some strange reason Laughing .

Well it's stuff making progress and the situation being updated as lots of people are just getting those stick on BS or E marks to put on thier race cans to MOT the thing. Laughing

Will be interesting to see how this actually starts to work, and you can bet they'll be doing spot check on places to check that bikes which should be failed are actually being failed.

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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
Well it's stuff making progress and the situation being updated as lots of people are just getting those stick on BS or E marks to put on thier race cans to MOT the thing. Laughing


Suspect that any that are marked "not for road use" or do not have any markings will still fail automatically. More likely all that will happen is that they now have a legitimate reason to fail exhausts that are marked.

Ste wrote:
Will be interesting to see how this actually starts to work, and you can bet they'll be doing spot check on places to check that bikes which should be failed are actually being failed.


They already do spot checks.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes me laugh, last night I was riding my bike home via country lanes and they've been resurfaced. Most people in the town I live wouldn't even know these roads existed. And wewonder where all the money goes
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

its still a farce, and they wont clamp down on noisy cans by doing this

bolt a legal one on outside the garage, walk it in MOT it, pass, come out bolt your blueflame back on, legal one in a backpack and off you go

complete joke really
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kev
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

You beat me to it Keith, we received the new pages at work today so I photo copyed them and I will be posting them on here later.

The rule with the pipes is they can be anything you like as long as they are not stamped "not for road use" or "race use only".

These rules have actually been in since december 2003 but it has taken them this long to update the pages for the MOT books.
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Flip
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PostPosted: 19:47 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Yoshimura Cyclone can is not e marked, nor does it say 'not for road use' but every one knows there illegal. Where do I stand now? Is it legal or not? Also there is no baffle in mine Shifty
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kev
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PostPosted: 21:04 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is down the discretion on the individual MOT tester.
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Flip
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 26 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK. Shocked thanks Kev Thumbs Up
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Ian (GPX)
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PostPosted: 23:48 - 27 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there anything else in these new MOT rules, like grab rails ?
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skyline
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PostPosted: 02:23 - 28 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think putting it down to mot'ers discretion is very fair at all, i think there needs to be some sort of db sound tester to make sure that it is fair to be honest.
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kev
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PostPosted: 08:02 - 28 Jun 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

skyline wrote:
i don't think putting it down to mot'ers discretion is very fair at all, i think there needs to be some sort of db sound tester to make sure that it is fair to be honest.
Na its much more fun to leave it down to people like me. Twisted Evil
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