Datatool Veto+ Alarm keeps going off

[MarkJ]

I have a Datatool Veto+ which has been in my 99 Honda Hornet for donkeys years - it's been in there since I got the bike 4 years ago and I've never had a problem with it. A few weeks ago it randomly started going off when I was washing it even though I had it in alarmed-but-motion-sensor-off mode. I checked the alarm immediately to make sure it wasn't wet and it was bone dry. I managed to stop the alarm going off by using the circle button and put it back in the garage.

I went to check it later that night and it hadn't armed itself at all, even though when disarmed it should arm after 20 seconds or so. But now when pressing the circle button it won't arm or disarm the bike - it's like a bike without an alarm. So I leave it as I can turn the ignition on fine and go for a ride on it on boxing day. When I get home it arms itself 20 seconds after me pulling the key out so I think problem solved.

Just now whilst sat in the living room the alarm starts going off. Press the circle button and it stops going off. Arm it, leave it for a bit and it'll go off again. There's nothing in the garage to set it off.

Obviously it's quite annoying and I don't want it going off at work all day. I haven't tried putting it in service mode yet to see if that solves the problem but even in motion-sensor-off mode the alarm will still randomly go off.

Is there anything I can do to fix this myself? The alarm won't have any sort of warranty on it (even the Evo which came after it has been discontinued) I searched a few threads on here and someone said to try re-positioning the movement sensor which I could try. I reckon it'll probably have to be a dealer job though. If anyone on here knows if this'll be expensive to fix or not I might just rip the loom out and put a standard one in.

[lonner]

could be the cold affecting it?

change the battery's first in the fobs and i think there's one in the alarm itself too.

first have a look inside the alarm to save you buying batteries
it might be corroded and it will be scrap if it is unless your lucky.
give it a squirt of wd40 and see if it improves

personally id bin it as there a pain once they start playing up.

check your ins first though as some insurance will be void if its removed.

hth

[Bendy]

Go check the Datatool site for starters, they have various guides and troubleshooting stuff on there.

Tis probably the alarm battery, if its been in there donkeys years its due a new one.

[MarkJ]

Been on the website and there's nothing with this issue. Certainly could be the internal battery (bike one is new and fine). There's another thread on here with a similar issue, the OP wanted to replace the internal battery with a different type of battery but no-one mentioned how easy/hard this was. This issue has certainly started since I've started commuting in the cold weather.

If I do this tonight is it as easy as just putting it into maintenance mode and opening the alarm? Will I end up spiking it? Again, no instructions on the net for replacing the alarm battery.

[bacon]

slightly off topic, the 7r i just picked up has a veto plus installed, its currently in valet mode so irritatingly beeps every fecking 30seconds or whatever.

i need new batteries for the fobs, but i cant find any information online to the type of batteries it takes, iv bought several, none of which fit, wondered if you fancy nipping the back off the fob and letting me know what battery it takes??

[dodgydog]

Said it before on here, but I had three Datatool alarms on different bikes. I ended up binning all three of them, I tried Datatool site and followed de-spiking instructions to no avail.
They are very expensive on replacement circuit boards too, not worth the hassle in my opinion.

I would rip it out and start again with another make alarm.

Dog


edited to add.

the problems I had with the first one on the Firestorm sounded much like your probs with the Hornet (as far as I remember).
random alarm activations, inability to disarm etc. I thought the problem was solved after de spiking but it waited till I was out miles from home then packed in altogether, disabling the bike
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[andybon]

Have a look at the fuse. The one on mine did something similar, But thats the Evo, May be something similar.
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[sickpup]

Alarms are a strange thing. In my experience they work well for three years and then something fails. No one ever bothers servicing their alarm and then they scream and bitch when it fails. This alarm has been in situ for at least 4 years and people change their computers more often than that, look at it that way and it has lasted well.

1. Check the internal battery.
2. Check the fuse.
3. Check the power supply to the alarm.

As it appears to be sensing a current drop it will be one of these three things.

[Simple]

[MarkJ]

Thanks for the help everyone. I replaced the battery for the alarm and that hasn't solved anything. I don't think the Veto+ has a fuse (the Evo does though, as I have that one my other bike) so can't replace that, unless it's inside the alarm? Power supply to the alarm is fine also.

The thing that has me stumped is I can leave the bike for hours and it won't go off, other times I can leave it for a matter of seconds and it'll go off. There are replacement Veto+ alarms on eBay which I am tempted to get, however it may be quicker to just buy a full wiring loom. Does anyone know if inside the alarm all the wires are on a connector block (so I could just unclip the alarm from the wires and clip a new alarm in), or soldered in?

[Simple]

BTW, when it was super cold the alarm on my bike (datatool system 21) would go off every 15 minutes, dispite being connected to a maximiser and covered up.

Our garage is seperate from the house so gets super cold. It's stopped now so I can only put the issue down to extreme cold.
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[lonner]

[andys675]

they used to do a new pcb and two new fobs you could buy as a kit, the old alarm loom just had a push on connector, easy job, don't know if they're still available

mine used to be the seat switch, they're crap switches, wired the thing out, no more hassle

[MarkJ]

[lonner]

[Serendipity]

Yes, very interesting indeed. I was the OP on a previous thread with a Veto Plus showing pretty similar symptoms. My old CBR has recently had a new battery for the bike and a new battery for the alarm, yet still it will go off every time its armed.

My bike is still on the workbench for the moment so no big loss being in service mode, other than the annoying beep.

I will watch progress on this thread with interest.
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[Gazdaman]

Mine did that, I ripped it out.

The world was a better place after that.

I've had two Datatool alarms, both have fucked up inexplicably.
Both got ripped out without a second's hesitation.

Gaz