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I would consider CBR125R 
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CBF125  Cracking bike IMHO 
£2K new or around 1.5K second hand.
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| 27cows wrote: | The GT125 is a lot less ridiculous than, say, a bike with 150hp. You can at least enjoy the 125 and use it's power to the full  |
I can never really get my head around the whole "using it's full potential" arguement. The same can be said for a lot of things; take wine for example. I'm no expert, I can't "experience" fine wine to it's fullest (complexity of flavour, bouquet etc), so should I stick to £2 a bottle smart price stuff? No... Becuase I enjoy and appreciate what a more complex wine has to offer (a £30 chambertin for example). I don't know anyone (actual people, not forum members I've never met) who can get the full potential out of a 600cc let alone a thou, but that doesn't stop them appreciating and enjoying the power these bikes have to offer. As long as you are responsible with that power and know how to get it round corners safely, I don't see why anyone should limit themselves to a bike they can ride at full pelt continueously. Like most "which bike" threads, The OP probably has a bike in mind, but just wants to see if anyone else comes up with the same idea, therefore validating it in their mind with the added possibility that someone might suggest something that hasn't even crossed their mind (G being a classic example with his "which commuter" thread). Henceforth, I shall keep my 125 suggestion to myself. Instead, to the OP, I say get the bike your heart desires the mostest, you'll only regret it if you don't!
(oh and apologies in advance if you haven't got a bike already in mind and genuinely wanted to know which 125 is best for you! )
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I can never really get my head around the whole "using it's full potential" arguement. The same can be said for a lot of things; take wine for example. I'm no expert, I can't "experience" fine wine to it's fullest (complexity of flavour, bouquet etc), so should I stick to £2 a bottle smart price stuff? No... Becuase I enjoy and appreciate what a more complex wine has to offer (a £30 chambertin for example). I don't know anyone (actual people, not forum members I've never met) who can get the full potential out of a 600cc let alone a thou, but that doesn't stop them appreciating and enjoying the power these bikes have to offer. As long as you are responsible with that power and know how to get it round corners safely, I don't see why anyone should limit themselves to a bike they can ride at full pelt continueously. Like most "which bike" threads, The OP probably has a bike in mind, but just wants to see if anyone else comes up with the same idea, therefore validating it in their mind with the added possibility that someone might suggest something that hasn't even crossed their mind (G being a classic example with his "which commuter" thread). Henceforth, I shall keep my 125 suggestion to myself. Instead, to the OP, I say get the bike your heart desires the mostest, you'll only regret it if you don't!
(oh and apologies in advance if you haven't got a bike already in mind and genuinely wanted to know which 125 is best for you! ) |
So what exactly is the point of having something with vast reserves of power? Why not have something like a 250 or 400 4, which is still fun to ride, still fast by the standards of the speed limits, and can have all the trick bits of a much bigger bike for those who like such things?
It would be like me buying a PC with four times the processing power and memory that I'm likely to use, but then comforting myself that the power is there should I ever decide to use high end graphic design programs.
I think the majority of people get sucked in by hype. How many people bought a Hayabusa for reasons other than it was the fastest production bike and the pose value that comes with that tag? And yet I've seen off people on Hayabusas (OK, one person on a Hayabusa) on my Bandit 12. It's increasingly common to encounter people on high end bikes who really get nothing close to the best from them, either in terms of handling, braking, acceleration or anything else.
How many are honest enough to say, yes, I bought my ABCD 1100 mainly because it's in all the bike mags, most people have heard of them and I like to pose on it? |
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| 27cows wrote: | It's increasingly common to encounter people on high end bikes who really get nothing close to the best from them, either in terms of handling, braking, acceleration or anything else. |
So what! If they're happy with their bike, who cares!
People own bikes for different reasons. I own a bike because it gives me a sense of freedom that I don't get from my car and it speeds up commuting. I don't want to have to push the bike to it's limits to maintain a good pace. If that means being a straight-line hero, then so be it, I see no shame in that and couldn't care less about the width of my chicken strips. Other people own bikes becuase they want to be able to rev the nuts off the thing and get round a corner with their knee down in the fastest way possible. Fair play to them if they're able to. A lot of people own a bike for the pleasure of riding them, not to be able to wave their willy around saying they're faster on their 125 than a busa. You being able to corner quicker than power rangers on gixxers etc gives you a buzz... I'll bet it's the same buzz that some riders get from opening the taps in a straight line and taking their superbike to daft speeds. Some people buy bikes for their handling, some for their performance, others just buy them becuase they like the look of the bike... And yes, some people buy bikes because it's the biggest/shineyest/most powerful/expensive bike out there and it gives them bragging rights... Whats wrong with that? There's no law against buying a bike just for the bragging rights. Thats the great thing about people, we're all different, consequently there's huge variety to be had in this world. If we were all the same, we'd all be riding the same bike and driving the same car.
Just my 2 pennies anywhos
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So what! If they're happy with their bike, who cares!
People own bikes for different reasons. I own a bike because it gives me a sense of freedom that I don't get from my car and it speeds up commuting. I don't want to have to push the bike to it's limits to maintain a good pace. If that means being a straight-line hero, then so be it, I see no shame in that and couldn't care less about the width of my chicken strips. Other people own bikes becuase they want to be able to rev the nuts off the thing and get round a corner with their knee down in the fastest way possible. Fair play to them if they're able to. A lot of people own a bike for the pleasure of riding them, not to be able to wave their willy around saying they're faster on their 125 than a busa. You being able to corner quicker than power rangers on gixxers etc gives you a buzz... I'll bet it's the same buzz that some riders get from opening the taps in a straight line and taking their superbike to daft speeds. Some people buy bikes for their handling, some for their performance, others just buy them becuase they like the look of the bike... And yes, some people buy bikes because it's the biggest/shineyest/most powerful/expensive bike out there and it gives them bragging rights... Whats wrong with that? There's no law against buying a bike just for the bragging rights. Thats the great thing about people, we're all different, consequently there's huge variety to be had in this world. If we were all the same, we'd all be riding the same bike and driving the same car.
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Agreed, each to their own.
I'm not a fast rider. I'm not one to have bits scraping on the ground all over the place. So when I can stay ahead of someone on a power ranger bike, they must be incompetent 
It just seems odd to me to spend extremely large amounts of money on something you will never come close to pushing to its limits, and which you don't have the skill to use to its potential. I tend to buy bikes I know I can get the best from. And R1 would be completely wasted on me, so I don't bother with one.
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| 27cows wrote: | But what is the point of a ridiculous power to weight ratio? What exactly do you do with all the power? |
To go fast easily. However, you've rather missed the point.
A bike with 150hp needs to weigh more to handle over ten times the power.
Less weight makes a lot of stuff easier and less hassle, going around corners, putting in/out of the garage, quick turning etc.
If it makes under 15hp, I want it to make full use of that and offer me the advantages I can get from a bike with less power, apart from just having less power.
If I was a learner and had £2k I wanted to spend on a 15hp, I think I'd pass my test, buy an SV650 and pay someone to restrict it to 15hp.
That way you get about the same bike as the comet, but you get to pass your test and can have more should you want/need it. Probably be more reliable too, as it's a better-proven engine that would be seriously under stressed. |
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