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joan33987
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 12 May 2009    Post subject: Capture houses, capture cars, what about capture bikes? Reply with quote

The police have capture houses to catch low lifes stealing,
The police have capture cars to catch low lifes stealing cars,

WHY DON'T THEY HAVE CAPTURE BIKES TO CATCH LOW LIFE STEALING BIKES!?

don't forget a bike is twice as likely to be stolen than a car, and more bikes are being stolen than cars.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 12 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you suppose they "capture" the thief? It's not like a car/house where they can lock you in.

A couple of the local forces have tried with bikes rigged with tracker type systems though.

Although I suppose they could use superglue on the seat. Laughing
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joan33987
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PostPosted: 15:04 - 12 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

capture house and capture cars don't physically capture the theif.
Capture house has hidden cctv cameras to record criminal's faces and have trakable valuables such as laptops so that when they steal it, the police and trace them.

Same as Capture cars, they have hidden cameras in the cars and once they broke into the car, they would automatically sprayed with invisible dye so that police can identify them with UV light.

Why couldn't they do the same with bikes?
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PostPosted: 13:21 - 20 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they just leave scooter's and dirt bikes around unchained. Just stuff the barrel with C4 first, then when some cider swigging, horrible spotty teen in a tracky manages to start it..................BOOOOM Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 20 May 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would assume that the problems the police may face with this type of operation is there are really two types of bike theft, much different to car theft...

A. Toe rags who will target anything and everything, but usually the cheaper and more accessible bikes at an opportune moment, usually for a short and sweet joyride, that will come to an end a few miles/ 10 minutes later (whichever comes first) when they either crash it or get bored and end up torching it.
B. Proffesional thieves, who will probably know more about the bike than the average owner, who already have a route planned and have been scoping the bike for some time, they'll most likely recognize if it's been planted and they wouldn't touch it.

If it was the former twat then the chances are it would all be over before anything came of it, the police won't deploy a unit to respond at a moments notice because they have better things to do like handing out tickets Rolling Eyes
No seriously though it wouldn't make sense at all to have a unit potentially waiting all day for some son of a bitch to take a bike.
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steven843
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 09 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davo wrote:
How do you suppose they "capture" the thief? It's not like a car/house where they can lock you in.

A couple of the local forces have tried with bikes rigged with tracker type systems though.

Although I suppose they could use superglue on the seat. Laughing


How about a taser moulded into the seat Smile
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 09 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

nsr125 r1 wrote:
Davo wrote:
How do you suppose they "capture" the thief? It's not like a car/house where they can lock you in.

A couple of the local forces have tried with bikes rigged with tracker type systems though.

Although I suppose they could use superglue on the seat. Laughing


How about a taser moulded into the seat Smile


After having my bike stolen I personally wouldn't mind bear traps or land mines! Thumbs Up

In all seriousness though the UK doesn't have entrapment laws so this should definitely be done. Leave bikes in certain places and set up CCTV. Track the bike and once it's definitely on the move remote-control blow out the front tire and watch them highside with no helmet. The worlds a better place without them.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 13 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tazer through the handle bars that can kill would be great. Although I would be worried about using the bike myself in such case lol
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 14 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

they have THIS. Is that what you mean?
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PostPosted: 16:46 - 14 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

A while ago a bike was stolen from our driveway late at night - someone was up and was running after them, but it 'just happened' that a panda was passing and an unmarked car also turned up.

Ok, I guess the unmarked car was following the thieves not monitoring the unlocked bike on our driveway, but they do do something!
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 16 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if police just said they planeted bikes around the UK and advertise it that might just make kids think twice before breaking my steering lock. i could of got myself a new bike if i didn't have to keep replacing the ignition switch every time some dum kid tries to take my bike, i guess i'm lucky that i've always stopped them getting away but really wish i could leave my bike with little more confidence.
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PostPosted: 03:52 - 17 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
In all seriousness though the UK doesn't have entrapment laws so this should definitely be done. Leave bikes in certain places and set up CCTV. Track the bike and once it's definitely on the move remote-control blow out the front tire and watch them highside with no helmet. The worlds a better place without them.


Not quite the UK has enticement to commit crimes laws, in that there are two famous cases in Customs and Excise law (before it merged to HMRC).


One case involved bonded warehouses and smuggled alcohol and cigs, they had a squealer who would grass on others when asked if there was any enticement he said no. It turned out there was enticement and the case collasped, red faces all around.



The other case was when Customs and excise setup a money laundering company to attempt to get people to launder their money* with them. This case collasped too in that they effectively enticed people to launder money with them, red faced customs and excise had to give all the dirty money back.

*though HMRC is actually the best money laundering operation in the UK for 20p out of the £ HMRC will launder money for you.
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PostPosted: 03:55 - 17 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be tempted to leave the bike somewhere and sit somewhere hidden with a cross bow.

A recent case a bloke was a acquitted of murder when he shot a cross bow at an intruder, I guess it depends on your locale though as self defence in some places isn't allowed. Also you'd have to drag them into your house to claim defence!.
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Alexio
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 17 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might just be semantics but in my mind there's a difference between the meanings of entrapment and enticement. To trap is to catch someone doing something they would anyway. There are always, always vehicles parked on the side of the road so providing another one isn't exactly encouraging more crime it's simple trapping a proportion of it. Enticement I guess would be what they did in your example, manufacture more crime in order to catch people in the criminal world.

Not sure I'd make a great lawyer though.
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PostPosted: 14:24 - 18 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because bikes and there riders are scum, idiots and brainless so bikes dont matter, the majority of the adult population would like to see bikes banned simple as that, god I fuckin hate people haha Smile
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