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c-m
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 21 Jan 2010    Post subject: Touring mods Reply with quote

I saw a worst mods thread in the general discussion forum, and i'd like to get more discussion going in the touring section.

Just wondering what your top mods are for touring on distances of 3,000miles and upwards.

I'm particularly interested in the mods done to sports bikes as all my touring have been on one, but any bike is good.

I've been pretty boring the only useful things i've fitted are:
A rack
A loobman (might try a Tutoro next)
Power socket
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 21 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too have been boring, I fitted a scottoiler, a rack & topbox for my European trip (3000+miles) and I fitted a powersocket before I went on my first camping trip on the fazer in August 2008.
The topbox was a godsend as I did away with a large holdall strapped on the back and it made room for the tent to be tucked into the rear grab rail and not digging in my back.
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 21 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never toured with a topbox. I did 5000miles 2up on a GPZ with no rack, that was interesting. I really did appreciate the rack I bought for the ZXR750.


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PostPosted: 22:23 - 21 Jan 2010    Post subject: Re: Touring mods Reply with quote

Taken from another thread, not a sports bike I'm afraid:

Accessory wiring system.
Powered pannier for charging.
Extra head light switch.
Thermometer/Humidity thingy.
Extra high seat with gel insert.
(not in pic above) Extra folding rear rack to take two tyres and a pop-up tent underneath, with lower-back seat - also ideal for storing 'stuff' in the tyres. Also have a large 'DIY' fairing sitting around.
Removable tank bag.
Extra LED lights on panniers (never got around to wiring in.)
Bar mounted camera mount for stills camera with quick release.
Stills camera protective case with twin retractable cable units.
Two sheep skin pads.
Bendy numberplate.
12v Air compressor.
Tubliss tubeless tyre system.
Loobman based chain oiler.
Bar risers.
Front preload adjusters (yet to fit though.)
Rear top box rack thingy.
Akrapovic Can.
KTM flyscreen.
Touratech panniers.
Oxford Muffs.
Additional LED side lights and indicators.
Folding mirror (left hand side only.)
Safari long-range tank.
G-iT bash plate.
Symtec heated grips.
Zumo 660 GPS.

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PostPosted: 01:11 - 22 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well all my modifications, some for general use others more for touring.

Angel Eyes wired into sidelights, saves using low beam for visibility in daylight as they're quite bright, also good for using as lighting with engine off as they're low power.

12v Socket under seat for charging phone, camera and using a 12v air compressor for tyres/punctures.

First aid kit attached to bottom of pillion seat, while it's a neat fit i'm not entirely sure it's practical while touring as it'd take about 10minutes to get to it, general use it's easily accessible.

Heated grips, for general use rather than touring but they went spazzy and are unreliable.

Loobman, fitted in less than ideal environment in an Austrian campsite but kept my chain lubed nicely until one of the feed cable ties broke off, and it doesn't seem to auto feed either, not sure if it needs an air hole making.

Stebel Nautilus airhorn, for bastards.

I did also have a CPU heatsink and fan on my reg/rec but I scrapped that as it was in a bad place and meant my fairing wouldn't fit perfectly unless I relocated the reg, not worth doing.

Only thing left to fit is a shock protector, got the stuff to make one, like a waterproof sock, will do so before next trip.
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 22 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Honda Hornet which has worked well on five 2 week tours. Fuel capacity is the only let down but a numb bum is relieved while I fuel up.

The changes I have made are:

1) Givi hard luggage. Works well as it is lockable and easy to use, removing and fitting is a few seconds. It is the E41 which has a small opening at the top ideal for putting in things that I might want easily during the day.
I also got some lockable QR mount catches so the panniers are secure to the bike all being locked. I tend to risk leaving all but the most valuble things inside overnight and while I am away.

2) Rear rack, initially for my first 2 trips held a bag full of gear, now with my panniers just holds my small tent.

3) tyreweld taped onto a pannnier mount, keeps it well out of the way and so far unused in anger.

4) Heated handle bar grips, Fitted after a very cold tour round Czech Republic, Poland and Germany

5) Scotoiler very good hardly ever need to adjust chain now, just fill up the reserve, could do with a larger reserve that will last 2 weeks though. It can be a bit messy on the rear end but for the lack of agro while touring who cares.

5) front light mounted perspex fairing, as it is a naked bike keeps a bit of the blast off my chest and head. Next bike will have a full touring faring.

6) Clock, as the hornet is a bit basic it is usefull to know the time without taking my gloves off. I got a stick on formotion cloch which fits between my 2 dials

7) tomtom rider V2 still have map back up but the tomtom is great especially when there are a lack of sign posts

8) helmet speakers to let me listen to MP3 player also seoerate speaker/bluetooth for Tomtom.

9) smalll bag tied onto handlebars holding cloth soaked in soapy solution for cleaning visor. is cheap and can be done quickly at traffic lights.

That I thing is about all. It has evolved over a few trips and now touring is easy and everything works well. Charging phone, bluetooth for GPS I do at a campsite while having a shower so no need for additional power takeoffs.
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PostPosted: 10:27 - 22 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 11:29 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
Loobman, fitted in less than ideal environment in an Austrian campsite but kept my chain lubed nicely until one of the feed cable ties broke off, and it doesn't seem to auto feed either, not sure if it needs an air hole making.


The Loobman doesn't autofeed, you have to squeeze it.

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How does it work?
The system uses gravity feed. You charge the Loobman system by gently squeezing the bottle for about three seconds (at a standstill of course) then ride away. As you ride, the oil will run down the delivery tube into the D.S.D. head and out onto the sprocket from where centrifugal force will throw it onto all essential parts of your chain and o-rings.


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PostPosted: 14:04 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to try this one next. Any comments?

https://www.tutorochainoiler.com/index.html
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PostPosted: 14:20 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a distance of 3,000 miles you'll run out of oil in a standard scottoiler or tutoro chain lubing device. For the scottoiler, I have the Lube Tube which allows for a lot more oil holding capacity. The tutoro looks pretty shit from that picture, can't last more than a few hundred miles surely?
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PostPosted: 14:27 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
For a distance of 3,000 miles you'll run out of oil in a standard scottoiler or tutoro chain lubing device. For the scottoiler, I have the Lube Tube which allows for a lot more oil holding capacity. The tutoro looks pretty shit from that picture, can't last more than a few hundred miles surely?


All of them will run out. Tutoro, Lubman, Scottoiller but they are exceptionally easy to fill up again.

Much easier than stopping every 200miles spraying your chain a bit, then pushing the bike the up road and spraying another bit and so on.

Actually I toured last year with ZXR750 and I only lubed the chain in between destinations. I never lubed it on the go.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For a distance of 3,000 miles you'll run out of oil in a standard scottoiler or tutoro chain lubing device. For the scottoiler, I have the Lube Tube which allows for a lot more oil holding capacity. The tutoro looks pretty shit from that picture, can't last more than a few hundred miles surely?


All of them will run out. Tutoro, Lubman, Scottoiller but they are exceptionally easy to fill up again.

Much easier than stopping every 200miles spraying your chain a bit, then pushing the bike the up road and spraying another bit and so on.

Actually I toured last year with ZXR750 and I only lubed the chain in between destinations. I never lubed it on the go.


What you on about? I spent £10 on a lube tube which allows you to hold another 300-400ml or more of scottoil. Therefore, you don't need to faff about filling it up. Laughing Question
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was that a joke? If so i certainly took the bait.

put https://lubetube.com/ into your browser Razz
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 15:47 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a real product...

https://www.scottoiler.com/pc/Accessories/Lube_Tube_-_Flexible_High_Capacity_Reservoir.html

You could also fit the HCR/Touring kit behind the number plate:

https://www.scottoiler.com/pc/Kits/Scottoiler_Magnum_HCR_Kit.html

I just take a 250ml panda pop bottle full of scotoil to top up my oiler when needed - it has the same thread as refill bottle top and tube, just wrap it up in a platic bag in my panniers. I think you can get smaller bottles of Scottoil as well. Also handy if you just want to pour some oil onto the chain directly if you notice its a bit dry.
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Straight bars and a 210x297mm visual navigation interface.
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I had a similar navigational interface Laughing:

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It was a bit small though and there was too much detail, so I ended up following a BCFer and then using road signs.
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PostPosted: 17:31 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The F.A.R.K.L.E.S you fit will depend on how serious you are about touring on a regular basis each year, and who you tour with.
A lube tube attached to the scottoiler usually means I only have to fill it up 1-3 times a year.
A Cigarette power socket fitting inside the fairing glove box on the sprint ST means I can put my mobile phone inside and charge it up while on the move, a 2nd OEM (hella) power plug, means I can run other items while on the go, (Ipod etc).
A Zumo 550 is powered from the GPS feed, and a Starcom is powered from the rear light, giving me good clear satnav, combined with the 11" notebook PC thats possibly sat charging in the Bags connection tankbag, this can allow me figure out possible routes or route changes over night using the Garmin mapsource and upload the route to the zumo ready for the next day, or go on the tinterweb with the notebook and book ahead hotels or ferries etc.
Add in the touring gel seat, Heated grips, Hugger, the 30mm higher bars, the throttlemeister Throttle lock (cruise control) the side bags & top box, and I`m able to travel (which I do) for more than 3 or 4 weeks at a time each summer across Europe etc.
I may add a pair of PMR 446 radios to the kit, if a mate decides hes joining me on a trip this summer, thru Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Italy, Corsica, Sardinia, and France
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PostPosted: 02:18 - 24 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
Loobman, fitted in less than ideal environment in an Austrian campsite but kept my chain lubed nicely until one of the feed cable ties broke off, and it doesn't seem to auto feed either, not sure if it needs an air hole making.


The Loobman doesn't autofeed, you have to squeeze it.


Ah, no. The problem was I'd squeeze it, the delivery tube filled but wouldn't get drawn onto the chain after the initial dribble, the angles were all right and I installed a 'trap'. The only way I could lube the chain was to litterally squeeze the bottle while riding so it kept coming out of the tube, not sure why the oil wasn't getting 'pulled' out of the delivery head and tube, the cable tie derived delivery heads were in full contact with sprocket (until a bump I hit meant one side got snapped off).
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PostPosted: 03:39 - 24 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What you on about? I spent £10 on a lube tube which allows you to hold another 300-400ml or more of scottoil. Therefore, you don't need to faff about filling it up. Laughing Question


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PostPosted: 11:51 - 24 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
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What you on about? I spent £10 on a lube tube which allows you to hold another 300-400ml or more of scottoil. Therefore, you don't need to faff about filling it up. Laughing Question


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Laughing I'd have done something similar but you should see how much space I have under my seat...sweet fuck all!!! Sad It was incredibly difficult to put the lube tube in!
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 24 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:

Ah, no. The problem was I'd squeeze it, the delivery tube filled but wouldn't get drawn onto the chain after the initial dribble, the angles were all right and I installed a 'trap'. The only way I could lube the chain was to litterally squeeze the bottle while riding so it kept coming out of the tube, not sure why the oil wasn't getting 'pulled' out of the delivery head and tube, the cable tie derived delivery heads were in full contact with sprocket (until a bump I hit meant one side got snapped off).


That "initial dribble" is it. You squeeze the bottle which pushes about 2" of oil into the tube which runs down onto your chain over the course of about 5 minutes.

That much oil, when evenly distributed, is enough to lube your chain for several hundreds of miles.

The idea is the loobman takes the place of applying oil directly to the chain every time you go out.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 24 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes but that was the problem, i'm talking one or two drips came out and the rest just stayed in the tube, it wouldn't come out like there was a vacuum holding it in place which is why I thought it may need a small breather hole in the hose up the top. If I squeezed it and put 2inches in the tube, 100miles later it was still there and a dry chain.
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 25 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
Yes but that was the problem, i'm talking one or two drips came out and the rest just stayed in the tube, it wouldn't come out like there was a vacuum holding it in place which is why I thought it may need a small breather hole in the hose up the top. If I squeezed it and put 2inches in the tube, 100miles later it was still there and a dry chain.


Yes. Put a small breather hole in the tube. I think it might actually be inside the bottle but part way up the tube.

If you're having problems in future, give Mr Loobman an email with pictures of how it's set up. He responds to them pretty quickly
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