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johnsmith222
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Crosser lids? Reply with quote

Hi.

My mate gave me a pretty much new crosser lid. It appears to be in good condition and seeing as some bitch dropped a tv on my caberg what I want to know is is it any good in a smash road style?

This is what I've got. He was ripping it because he thinks it looks stupid or something. What do yout hingk? I took a photo of it in my room.

https://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/david_m213/DSC00314.jpg?t=1264211307

How can I expect it to perform compared to a road style lid in a smash? I normally wear a film front caberg. I'm not bothered about how it looks, just how it'll perform.

Thanks for your opinions.


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P.addy
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

i prefer the short circuit 2 poster you have up...
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PostPosted: 01:47 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

How well it will do in a crash is largely down to how well the lid fits you.

If you're riding a sports bike wearing an MX lid then I wouldn't be surprised if you get stopped lots of times by the police who'll think you're a chav who's nicked the bike. Razz
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johnsmith222
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PostPosted: 01:49 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It fit's nice and tight as.

Mayeb I will fit it after my restriction is up in like a month.

It's in spanish. Courto circuito 2. LOL!
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PostPosted: 01:56 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The liner almost always gets wet though and stays wet...
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PostPosted: 02:04 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

MX helmet in a road smash? Tools for the job I was told. I wouldn't like to butt tarmac with one. Smile
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johnsmith222
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PostPosted: 02:08 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
MX helmet in a road smash? Tools for the job I was told. I wouldn't like to butt tarmac with one. Smile


At the same time maybe it wasn't really good in terrms of hitting caberg tarmac.
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PostPosted: 02:11 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something about the peak and extended mouth piece says broken neck to me. Never crashed in one though. Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:17 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

flip wrote:
Something about the peak and extended mouth piece says broken neck to me. Never crashed in one though. Laughing


good pont. I was thinking don't wear a flip front up because you break youre neck so maybe it's the same. Man I'll just stick with the caberg. It's not going to get me pulled for the moment.
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PostPosted: 02:18 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flip up helmet, with the front up is technically not wearing a helmet. Thumbs Up (If that's what you meant?)
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PostPosted: 02:20 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye man. thats what I mean.
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PostPosted: 02:22 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The peak isn't rigid, if you hit the ground it'll just shatter.

MX lids are used in supermoto racing and they're riding on tarmac so they can't be too bad if you crash on the road.

It's down to how well the lid fits you.
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johnsmith222
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PostPosted: 02:30 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
The peak isn't rigid, if you hit the ground it'll just shatter.

MX lids are used in supermoto racing and they're riding on tarmac so they can't be too bad if you crash on the road.

It's down to how well the lid fits you.


Aye it is tight all round nice. The chin is like a mile away. The caberg touches which is not good. I think I'll wear my new lid when restriction is not needed. It's cool because my mat who gave me the lid dint' know about the girl dropping the tv on my helmet. I didnt let on because he was going out with her. I'm glad I didn't let it on. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 04:07 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be stronger than the caberg, as flip up front helmets are only tested to standards for open face helmets. A flip up front helmet might look like a full face helmet, but it only gives the protection of an open face helmet.

As I frequently mention, I knew someone who died after face planting a tree in a caberg flip front. He wore it as he could have a smoke without having to take his lid off, so I guess smoking killed him really.
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PostPosted: 08:56 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Theyre still designed to meet the same standards in terms of crashing.

The peak would flick off and the extended chin bar would make little if no difference I doubt.

Biggest problem will be getting stopped by the fuzz and the windblast which about 80-ish (depends on conditions) will try to take your head off.
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Colin; if they're sold as an open face, that's all they're tested as (such as the roof version), however the Cabergs are sold as full-face as far as I know. Doesn't mean they will be perfect in all situation, same as all helmets.

flip wrote:
Something about the peak and extended mouth piece says broken neck to me. Never crashed in one though. Laughing

That's what I've heard - the peak isn't a massive issue, but the chin bit is much more likely to twist your head around on impact and when rolling. This is partly why 'adventure' helmets are a bit shorter generally, but also 'smoother', so you can roll more easily I believe.

I've got one of those helmets and have crashed in it numerous times off-road, has been 'ok'. Never crashed at serious speed or on the road.
General quality etc isn't amazing - I paid £40 for mine I believe.

Rueben: don't think there's any 'roll' tests in standard crash tests?
More than once I've rolled over the front of my helmet, scratching the visor. I would be quite concerned that in those cases it'd be less likely to roll, while my body would keep doing so.
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PostPosted: 09:03 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I occasionally ride on the road with my MX helmet, any hint of a breeze and your head gets buffeted around. At roughly 40mph the peak really catches the wind. But I find my MX helmet a lot more comfortable than my full face one, plus they dont fog up so you dont have to fiddle with visors or vents.

No reason why they wont perform as well in a crash as a full face, they still have to meet the same standards. Do you like it as a helmet?
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's probably worth mentioning that even some full face helmets (cheaper ones I'd assume) do not have the chin bar tested anyway.
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