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ronnieringdin...
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PostPosted: 08:36 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: has anyone fitted a pedalbike speedo to motorbike? Reply with quote

hello chaps
ive built a streetfighter r1 im planning on fitting a pedalbike speedo im not sure which one to get coz theres bloody loads to choose from has any one ever fitted one ? what problems should i expect ?
thanx for any info ronnie
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PostPosted: 09:00 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Re: has anyone fitted a pedalbike speedo to motorbike? Reply with quote

Yes. Go for a wired one (due to interference.)
Cheap tescos one would start showing half or third speed from around 50mph.
Cat's eye one has been on my zx9 for maybe six or seven years. Tested to 150mph. As it's pretty old now, the specific model probably won't help you.
Remember you /should/ have a back light. I never bothered, but coming up to gatso's at night you have to catch street lighting just right as you pass it to see the speed, which is irritating.
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PostPosted: 09:02 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a pure computing perspective there is no way of being certain a bicycle one will work at speeds about 40mph. Chances are it will work, but how accurate is going to be a bit random. I think vehicle speedo's have laws to follow they are something like:
Must not under read speed
May not over read by more than 10%

On a bicycle an under read or over read of 15% wouldn't be noticable or illegal. I would find a dedicated street fighter community with some expirence in doing this and ask them if they know of and specific ones that work.
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PostPosted: 09:08 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had one from Aldi that worked fine except that it suffered a bit of lag when accelerating. On wot it went from 0 straight to 40. Main thing to think about is where you mount the sensor and magnet. I drilled a recess into the front disc and used alridite to hold it in place.

I was going to fit a small led as a light but never got around to it. I think someone on here suggested painting half the led with nail varnish to stop it shining in you face.
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PostPosted: 09:55 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
From a pure computing perspective there is no way of being certain a bicycle one will work at speeds about 40mph.


Confused

There is. The lovely council people put up speed displays by me just so I could check mine out. Very Happy. It definitely worked fine up to 80, probably more accurate than most cars I've owned.

There is no reason that a bicycle computer is going to be any less accurate than one from acewell or even OEM. they all work on the diameter of the wheel. I agree that if you spend £2 on one then you are pushing you luck but any decent one will work fine as long as your measurements are accurate.

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Must not under read speed

VW, Audi, and Skoda must be shagged then since I've never had one that did anything other than read under speed. The Octavia I have at the moment reads a good 5mph under.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Re: has anyone fitted a pedalbike speedo to motorbike? Reply with quote

In my experience bicycle ones tend to be more accurate as you measure the tyre yourself - the rest is very 'simple' maths, or should be!
Generally show as much more accurate when tested with a GPS compared to standard vehicle ones - as I say, only problem is that cheaper ones seem to start to 'miss' every other rotation, or whatever.
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PostPosted: 16:12 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I fitted a halfords wired unit (£10) to compliment my standard speedo which started to flicker eratically whenever above 40mph.

I used a gps device to calibrate it so its probably about as accurate as almost anything else out there.

However I did have to buy a larger neodymium magnet (£2.50) as the standard magnet supplied wasn't powerfull enough to cover the distance between it and the pickup unit when fitted on my bike.
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you get the larger magnet from out of interest?
That may have cured the issues with the cheap one, but it may have just been a case of not being able to differentiate the signal at that speed.
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PostPosted: 18:22 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

The issue is likely related to the devices timings at it only being able to pick up one pulse every 10th of a second, then when you give it a pulse twice frequency that it misses every other one. Fitting a bigger magnet would help if it were just simply moving too fast to have a magnetic effect, but if it's genuinely missing every other then that isn't the problem.
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PostPosted: 18:31 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did it on an RS125 i had, was much cheaper than replacing speedo drives every 5 minutes...

The one i used was £10 from Halfords, worked a treat. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

what a wonderfull response cheers chaps
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does the cheap one from Halfords have a backlight? My normal speedo has no back light any more and I can't be bothered to open up the clocks to replace the bulb. More than that I'm starting to think the speedo isn't all that accurate. Yesterday I was following someone in their car down a very large hill. My speedo read 60MPH exactly and afterward they told me I had hit 70MPH in keeping up with them (and I was at full throttle, which would sound right for my bike).
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

No mate, it didnt have a backlight. Im sure you could knock something up with a LED though Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alexio wrote:
Does the cheap one from Halfords have a backlight? My normal speedo has no back light any more and I can't be bothered to open up the clocks to replace the bulb.


The CG clocks don't need opening up. On the back should be rubber bungs for each light. Pull them out and change the bulb. Only takes 2 mins.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dittoo wrote:
Alexio wrote:
Does the cheap one from Halfords have a backlight? My normal speedo has no back light any more and I can't be bothered to open up the clocks to replace the bulb.


The CG clocks don't need opening up. On the back should be rubber bungs for each light. Pull them out and change the bulb. Only takes 2 mins.


Can't be bothered to look now but I'm pretty sure that the last time I looked it was evident that I was unable to remove the casing because the headlight was in the way. Didn't look like a 2 minute job. My speedo hasn't had a back light for such a long time now, it can't be all that important anyway.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 23 Jan 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote

the needle went on my honda, so i bought a cateye velo5...one of the most basic speedos you can buy but they are really reliable

instead of mounting it to the fork...and using spacers...i managed to attach it to the mudguard mount...fits a dream

only downside is i cant see what speed im doing at night. doesnt matter though cos im not a fast rider Laughing
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