China... World worries.

[st3v3]

Well, after watching Piers Morgan on Shanghai; should we actually really be worried?

They really are taking over the world, taking our greatest, making it bigger and "better" but disgustingly cheaper and selling it back to the world (like the bikes they build to crumble instantly) - cheeky bastards.

They even make black cabs over there.

Piers went into a Tesco's..... they're so up-market in the posh bit's they get fresh fish. Not just fresh fish though, oh no - fish that are so fresh they are actually swiming in fucking tanks in the aisles!

Their next biggest goal is to make the biggest building in the world beating Abu Dhabi and we seem have citizens flying out there to start afresh, and their average annual wage is around 3.5K

The goverment have a nationwide 'block' on social sites such as Facebook but all the underworld geeks get round this.

They appear to be in a position where

Opinions - (except Itchy - you smug cunt you can keep away and refrain from the olde "I told you so" ) ok?
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[Ste]

Hello please!!

[ms51ves3]

[panrider_uk]

They bought the site where I work when no-one else was interested and we would have closed down and they've invested millions of £ in us so they get a from me.

Mark
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[The Original Muzza]

Think of all the stuff they invented hundreds of years ago, what they have contributed to the world in the past. They are just Britain in 50 years time. A former "Great" empire turned to shit.
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[st3v3]

[Glen]

[silky666]

I have followed China with interest for the past 15 years or so.
At first I was appalled (human rights / abandoned babys etc) .... then I became confused and couldnt understand why they were doing things and no one could see what a sh&t storm they are developing (starvation, fossil water usage etc) .... but now I am simply in awe.

They are scary ,,, but awesome.

Its the numbers that always get me.
Each time I hear some statistics I am surprised by the scale.
ie: More people fluent in English that the whole western world !
... or, they build a new coal fired power station every 2 weeks ,,, etc etc.

This week I hard a new one from a reliable source.
In 2010 China are building 83 new major airports.
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[Ste]

What would they do with 83 new airports?

The UK spends years arguing about adding 1 runway at a major airport, that's the British way of doing things.

[Flip]

Should we worry about the Chinese take over the world?

If their steel is anything to go by, yes.

[st3v3]

[ms51ves3]

[smegballs]

Well take military might.....

Say their pop is 1 billion (its really more I know) and say that they can at minimum mobilise 10% of their population then that is an army 100 million strong

Thats about as conservative as I can think, I think they still do national service so there is a huge (astronomical) number of chinese males with military experience in the last 15 years or so.....

I dread to think how many hundreds of thousands of tanks and planes and ships etc etc they possess or could quickly manufacture. (I also dread to think of the quality of said vehicles )

If it came to open war then I think they would win on pure numbers, there literally wouldn't be enough bullets to kill them....

Of course all that is trivial though as they have everyone by the balls economically! Why fight a war when you can simply say "no country X you are not getting any of goods Y if you do this". I gather the chinese are also buying up huge quantities of raw materials to expand their productions.... Steel, copper etc etc I'm told chinese influence has helped to cause a rise in scrap prices the last few years.

Also china has large shares in plenty of western companies now too so can influence that way.

So yeah I'd be worried about Chine. Its a bit of a pointless worry though seeing as they are much to strong to be countered.

I imagine the next world war will be "The World" vs China...

[TheDonUK]

For starters fuck piers morgan and anything he has to do with...

But yes The rise of China and ther other BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India and China) countries is interesting. Personally i worry less about China gaining power than how America will cope with relinquishing it.

China seems all about business and profit... Being better capitalists than the west ever were.

Its the rise and fall of great powers, according to Paul Kennedy history shows a cyclic pattern of Rise and Fall, America is currently in decline and China is rising, the point of interest as i said above is where they meet. I cant see america going out without a fight (to all our detriment). Kennedy wrote his book the rise and fall of great powers in '87 before the end of the cold war, and then he predicted China/Japan rising around 2025 to the status of a superpower that america would be classed as now. The prediction seems on course the other week i read China is now the second largest economy.

All empires must come to an end, even the unspoken american one. And this next century is certainly an Asian one...
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[silky666]

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But what if the West stopped buying all the Chinese stuff? Surely China would be screwed - I can't imagine that the average Chinese peasant buys much of the stuff manufactured over there.

So if the West declines, maybe China will as well?

[pwntifex]

[kawashima]

Is there
1) intellectual property right
2) thoughts of customer satisfaction
in China?
If not, will they get it in the future?

If you turn around your mouse, all of you read "Made in China".
I don't care about mouse but
-Food
-Vehicle
I can't say I don't care yet due to above 1 &2.

Chinese government tried to request IT source code.
https://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/content/view/16199/

and

Do you remember the Chinese methamidophos dumpling and malachite green eel?
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[Al]

The main reason China is such a popular destination for manufacturing seems to be down to the low costs.
You'd think, well hope, that at some point human rights, pay and conditions in China for the workers would get better.
At that point things are going to have to change. We will either have to pay more for everything or production will be shifted to some other poor part of the world with no human rights.

Pretty old now but this is a really interesting look at what working in a Chinese factory is like for many.
https://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-6733564947664645042
*It's in English apart the first few minutes.
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[Skudd]

I'm just scared that the fuckers jump up and down at the same time, sending the Earth out of its orbit around the Sun.
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[Glen]

[st3v3]

Thing is, now it's been discovered a lot of China's gold stored in the bank of England is 'fake', which was originally from America and afaik China are in some way selling it back...

The global economy is far from getting better, within 2 years we will be back to trading livestock and crops.

Then there's the fact we never have any money, whatever we accumulate is either handed off to the EU for Spain etc to build their land mass up or handed to starving kids' charities in aid bonds.
I'm not trying to be insensitive (yeah, I know sound like a heartless bastard for daring to say such a thing) but with the debt we are in, why can't Brown the fukcing spanner say 'no' here and there? when we can't afford to pay out OAPs their pensions we the fuck are we shelling out to other counties when it has absolutely no return for us at all?
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