Parcelfarce Charges Illegal

[UrbanRacer]

I found this and thought it was quite interesting, i have no issue paying the duty on goods i buy overseas but the £13.50 they charge on top of that and they won't even attempt delivery is a fucking joke tbh. Read on


Firstly the package was labelled correctly as its legal to import for person use and customs didn’t put up an argument they simply held the package for a couple of days and then slapped the duty and VAT charges £23 something.

As the package was imported using the Thai national postal service it gets handed over the Parcel force which is now a privately owned division of the royal mail.

Parcel force pay the customs charge on your behalf then slap £13.50 on for the privilege of doing so.

When my mate went to collect his pack from the depot they refused to hand it over unless he paid the charge including £13.5 and storage on top of that.

My mate then quoted that it was illegal to complete a service (paying customs) and charge the customer without offering them the chance to pay it themselves or having a prior agreement on the price.
Then he demanded that they hand the package over with an invoice as it was a criminal offence under the (criminal law act section 104 sub section 2d) to hold a postal package in "virtue of lien". This means holding a package for ransom of payment... This is just like saying....

"You can’t have your package unless you pay us £13.50 cause we paid your customs bill, when you didn’t even ask us to."

Also holding a package illegally as a non government owned postal service (Royal mail and Parcel force are privately owned now) is against the postal service act 83,84 and carries a sentence of up to 6 months.

He spoke to the manager who didn’t give him the package and my mate then rang the police who after an hour or so of arguing with him told the boss he either released the package or they would arrest him.

He got the package. Parcel force paid the bill and as they didn’t inform my mate they were going to pay the customs charge on his behalf they didn’t have a leg to stand on so in the end he paid nothing.

Royal mail and Parcel force make millions every year doing this and its against the law so f**k them and next time you get a bill check to see if you legally have to pay it.

I’m telling you this now cause I just went to pick up my new set of golf clubs and they slapped a bill on for over £90. I walked in and stated the criminal law act 104 subsection 2d and the postal act 2000, 83, 84 and they just gave me my clubs.

Sounds like they shouldn't be doing what they’re doing...

[The999Kid]

that post is made of WIN!
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[UrbanRacer]

Just to add, i got some car parts delivered from Japan by Fedex. They delivered the parcel as soon as they could. A few weeks later i got a letter saying i was due to pay a customs charge on that delivery. their was no additional cost, just the duty.

[supZ]

on the subject of people charging you illegally..

anyone gone into a shop or pub and be told you have to spend £5 or over or you cant pay by card so you end up getting more than you want or going to the cash point?

well, they arnt allowed to do it!

It iss legal, but it's a violation of the merchant's contract with both Visa and Mastercard.

[flat spot]

Read a much bigger thread about the whole ordeal here..........

https://www.volkszone.com/VZi/showthread.php?t=351900&highlight=parcelforce

[Devils Advocate]

if this is true....i thank you
stored in favourites for future reference.

[Itchy]

[Hetzer]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, this is why it's so gratifying to stiff credit-card companies. They're another parasitic entity that thinks it has a right to bite the cherry from both sides.
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I've emailed ParcelForce asking how I can go about getting my money back from them.

[Hetzer]

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Don't worry I quoted those in my email just to hopefully jolt them into something above an automated reply.

I enjoy things like this, they amuse me and pass the time whilst at work. I haven't done one in a while, so will enjoy prodding them with a proverbial pointy stick.

[UrbanRacer]

i don't know if that will work Joe, you've already accepted the charge and paid it.

[Hetzer]

[Nufkamp]

Had this by email today, no idea if it's bullshit or not.

Pay your fine, but, NO POINTS DEDUCTED, !!

Read on :-



This is how the points get added to your license:


If you get a fixed penalty notice through the post which also carries

penalty points the computer system first sends you a demand for the cash.

When you have paid, it then sends a demand to return your license for

endorsement.



It cannot handle the license endorsement and the payment at the same

time, and it cannot process the points part of the system until the

financial section is complete.



If you overpay the fixed penalty, it must issue and send a refund cheque

for the overpayment.



Therefore, overpay the fixed penalty by sending a cheque for the full

amount plus £1.00



The computer will then automatically generate a refund cheque for the

over-payment and send it to you.



**** Do not cash this refund cheque - DUMP IT.


The system then remains 'open' and cannot generate the 'send your license

for endorsement' demand part of the program.



It does, however, record your payment of the fixed penalty, so it does

not trigger the 'follow-up unpaid fine' stage.



As there is no human intervention, the system will leave you alone, since

it has got your money, which is the primary objective!
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[mrtEE]

any update on this? I just got bum raped by parcelfarce on an imported item

[chrisw]

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[SoND]

I can't find "criminal law act 104 subsection 2d"

Postal Act 2000 83 - 84 https://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/en/00en26-b.htm