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 Posted: 15:58 - 18 Feb 2010 Post subject: Knocked off by a teenager on a biycle |
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Hi,
Managed to have my first real accident yesterday and could do with a bit of advice;
Basically I was behind this lad on a bicycle and was waiting to overtake as there were oncoming cars. As I pulled out to overtake he swerved across the road without looking or any indication, presumably he was trying to get onto the path on the other side of the road. Ended up going into his back tyre and sliding up the road finishing up by the offside curb. The lad on the bicycle promptly scarpered but was chased back by a guy who saw it in his car He made him come back and claimed that he didn't realise he had hit me, despite me having a great big strip of rubber on my front mudguard from where I hit him.
I left my bike in a nearby drive and followed him back to his house to speak with his parents. Met his mother who came across as a bit of a drill sergeant but was sympathetic and she said that she would cover the cost. Went to report it to the police who were helpful at the time but, as I'd already realised, told me it'd be hard to claim off him as he's obviously not insured and I'm only covered third party.
I went to get checked over at A+E but just soft tissue bruising or something of the sort. Got a visit this morning from the police and they took a statement from me (I presume this is what it was but I've had anything do with them before) Officer who came to take it was a bit of a tit and seemed to be trying to get me to admit that I was to blame but I think what he wrote down was accurate (after plenty of corrections ).
This is the bit I need a bit of advice with, rang the boys mother this morning and she put me onto his Dad who pretty much told me to piss off and that he didn't realise why he should have to pay for my bike and then put the phone down, rang him back and hung up again.
Is there anyway that I can claim off them for my bike? I have 3 witnesses who all saw him swerve across as I was overtaking but being third party only I'm guessing insurance won't be much help. Would going to court actually achieve anything or should i just give up hope? attached is obligatory paint diagram and will upload a few pictures when I see the bike,
Many thanks
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Much damage to the bike? ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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Hi
Don't think the MIB will cover it as cyclists have no obligation to be insured and their web site gives the impression that they are limited to situations where insurance is compulsory..
As such you are probably restricted to going to court. Would suspect the damage / injury is well within the bounds of the small claims court.
While the cyclist doesn't legally need to have insurance, many are actually insured as a consequence of their house insurance.
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Thanks for the replies, no idea on how much the damage to the bike will come to, is getting picked up by a bike shop for an estimate tomorrow, I'm guessing the cost will be about £300 but other than the cost of parts on ebay I have nothing to go on. Only the left side of the bike is damaged and the rear indicator protected the rear fairing bit but the front fairing has been torn in two, gear level bent into itself, the handle bar has also folded upwards and I'm guessing the front mudguard is cracked. Will teach me to buy a faired learner bike eh
If a court case is likely to take a long time I'll most likely not bother, but as you say it might give them a kick up the arse and get them paying some money out. The lad who hit me was 14, are parents obliged to pay costs?
Thanks for the advice and that link Jay, it might be useful. |
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I can't believe the cheeky little fucker said he didn't realise he hit you!?
That rubber on your mudguard proves the impact was enough for anyone to notice, and the fact he pissed off. If it wasn't for the witness that chased the twat, i'd have ran after him, i would've been fuming
His dad seems like a cock, but if his mother agreed to paying for the damage, can't you bring that up? Pity you didn't record her saying that, could of been useful in court.
All i can do, is wish you the best of luck mate, sorry to here about the spill, i just hope you get something out of the little shits parents. I feel for 'ya buddy, hope all goes well  |
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Agree with Hetz.
Perhaps popping round, mentioning that you have a pretty good case that could go PITA for the guy if he wants to continue being a dick.
Or you can just get the stuff off ebay for X amount (CBR 125 parts should be all over the shop) and fit them yourself. And give him the relatively tiny cost.
It will be good practice for you and should stop the insult irking you so much. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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Sounds like a case for the No win no fee mob
Only thing i would worry about is you hit the back of him.... Despite the witnesses.
Something that has been touched on here is that even if you win in a small claims court you will have to do a lot of leg work if they don't pay up. And you are looking at chasing a minor who has no income.
So could be looking at getting very little a week if lucky. Best guess is parents have NO libility at all. As he is over the age of responsibility.
Small claims info Be aware that you cannot claim against a child... But it does not seem to indicate what age that is.
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Nobody has mentioned that they would send the heavy mob round yet, which for bcf, is slightly disappointing.
fuck receipts and that bollocks - I have created your ultimate revenge plan!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should make some miniture stickybombs - ala Saving Private Ryan - hide in a ditch and when the lad goes passed on his pushknacker, lob one of the back wheel and watch it go kaboom.
However, even though the stickybomb recipe seems fairly straightforward - sock, explosive, tar - I'm sure you will have difficulty getting a miniture sock.
Therefore, I'd suggest sticking to my original premise - hide in a ditch - but instead of a stickybomb, just jam a pointy stick in his frontwheel.
You will also need someone there to film it for it to be absolutely perfect.
Then in the aftermath, whilst the kid is shrieking, and his wrists are flopping about as they are broken, you could say something pithy like 'I didn't realise I hit you' and turn to the camera looking all smug - for this last part envision Ahnold in Predator, when he says 'stick around.'
Yes it is far-fetched, but it's just so crazy, that it just might work! |
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| Hazylogic wrote: | Nobody has mentioned that they would send the heavy mob round yet, which for bcf, is slightly disappointing.
fuck receipts and that bollocks - I have created your ultimate revenge plan!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you should make some miniture stickybombs - ala Saving Private Ryan - hide in a ditch and when the lad goes passed on his pushknacker, lob one of the back wheel and watch it go kaboom.
However, even though the stickybomb recipe seems fairly straightforward - sock, explosive, tar - I'm sure you will have difficulty getting a miniture sock.
Therefore, I'd suggest sticking to my original premise - hide in a ditch - but instead of a stickybomb, just jam a pointy stick in his frontwheel.
You will also need someone there to film it for it to be absolutely perfect.
Then in the aftermath, whilst the kid is shrieking, and his wrists are flopping about as they are broken, you could say something pithy like 'I didn't realise I hit you' and turn to the camera looking all smug - for this last part envision Ahnold in Predator, when he says 'stick around.'
Yes it is far-fetched, but it's just so crazy, that it just might work! |
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Told someone earlier about my accident and they happened to know the boys family, turns out they've got a bloody lot of money which makes me even more irked off at what his Father did.
Trouble is that I can't afford to pay for the damage he's done myself, being 18 years old and only having occasional work I'd rather stay on the right side of them and hope that a polite letter as Keith said will work.
Plan of action at the moment is to get a quote of repair and send the bloke a copy and a letter along the lines of asking him to pay for for an accident his lad's caused and if he refuses to pay then go to small claim's court. Is a solicitor necessary for this sort of thing or will the CAB be able to do just as much? Cheers |
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sorry, are you saying that you was behind him then as you overtook he turned and you hit the back of him? If thats the case id say it was your fault and you'll be lucky to get anything.  ____________________ Current : '08 Yamaha FZ1s
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You can more info here
It is very important any corespondance is sent to the person you hit not the parent. On the court forms the will be something like fred blogs child of harry blogs.. Speak to the court to ensure correct wording.
Before you can go to the court you need to send formal requests for the money. Everything should be sent signed for delivery and keep a full track of all letters. It may be appropiate to copy the parent in a seperate letter. Do not hand post the letters.
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