Is this a good training?

kawashima · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 May 2005 Karma :

I'm doing endless circulation on the below small square map for about an hour whenever I ride my bike.
Circled number is gear I use, I try to accelerate and brake quickly.
There is almost no traffic but I stop at red line.
Do you think this is a good training?
https://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/kawashima_/map-02.jpg
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crazyjoyce · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 05 May 2009 Karma :

training for what?! Laughing

kawashima · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 May 2005 Karma :

Hi, thanks for your responses.
It's a training for riding as quick as possible. I accelerate full throttle and brake hard, make a quick turn and accelerate.. repeat.
Because there's no good road around here.

I wanna practice down shifting while hard braking, and the best timing too.
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It's a under road below motorway lamps, there's almost no traffic. So I can practice safely.
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t121anf · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Karma :

but you will only be fast on that route? go out and learn on multiple routes so you can learn to judge more imo

Quickly · Crazy Courier Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Karma :

Yeah it's not good unless you're going to spend all your days just doing that loop. At some point you're going to be on a decent road and what you've learned here won't apply. Try not to have 'going fast' as a goal, just concentrate on being smooth. Fill your bike up one day and go out into the countryside and just ride within your limits, up to the point where you no longer feel comfortable. You'll go fast on the straights and slow on the corners, but you'll learn to judge the road and you'll have explored your own capabilities. Those two factors in turn will make you a faster rider, and not just on certain specific roads.
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kawashima · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 May 2005 Karma :

This is how I ride at winding at the moment.
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Alexio · World Chat Champion Joined: 27 Aug 2009 Karma :

You could definitely ride faster and use up more of the road but otherwise that riding was fine. It might be hard to judge speed from a video like that though.

You have to ask yourself if you were accelerating as fast and braking as fast as you could in the straights and if you were taking yourself up to your limits on the speed and position you were entering the corners yet. You'll become a better rider the more often you approach your limits and get a great feel for them knowing how to react to them.
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kawashima · World Chat Champion Joined: 03 May 2005 Karma :

I know most of BCF members are fast riders.
I really want to know is what is the best way to become a fast rider except going for a circuit? (Except circuit is because I don't have leather and I don't wanna brake my bike)
Is going to a same winding repeatedly the best way?
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yuri2085 · World Chat Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2008 Karma :

I guess it probably is good training for the skills of breaking quickly, just bike control and having a better feel for what your bike can do.
But it's pretty obsessive and I wouldn't do it, but if you enjoy it then go for it.

edit: yes, winding roads (in clear conditions/no traffic?) is the best way to practice getting the most out of your bike in winding roads.

Quickly · Crazy Courier Joined: 29 Apr 2008 Karma :

69.9mph · Crazy Courier Joined: 20 May 2006 Karma :

I'd recommend getting a DVD of Twist of the Wrist 2 by Keith Code which will give you some better techniques to practice. Thumbs Up

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Ditto · Nearly there... Joined: 26 Sep 2009 Karma :

I think it must be a confidence thing. You are going very slow in that video compared to what the bike is capable of.

Its not a bad thing mind, pick up some DVD's or do an advanced riding course, or even a trackday in the begginer group.

There are plenty or courses you can do you make you a faster and better rider.
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